Re: [Eval Videos] "some checks are as simple ..." (Video 2)

It's OK with me.

~Shawn

On 11/25/2019 6:55 AM, Shadi Abou-Zahra wrote:
> Thanks Kevin. I like this edit. Let's see if Shawn and others too.
> 
> Many thanks,
>    Shadi
> 
> 
> On 25/11/2019 10:55, Kevin.White@gov.scot wrote:
>> Hi Shadi,
>>
>> Just double checking the script on the wiki (https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Video-Based_Resources/Evaluation_Introduction#Video_2:_Preliminary_Evaluation_.28.7E1.5_minutes.29), seq 6 the text is:
>>
>>     Some checks are as simple as looking at the title of the web pages displayed in the browser window.
>>
>> This was what caused me a problem. There is only one check that looks at the page title. Given that, the grammar of the sentence didn't really work. Looking back at my comment, it seems that I caused the confusion as I misquoted what was in the video.
>>
>> Regarding your suggested change, I might suggest a slight alternative based on the actual text:
>>
>>     Some checks are simple. For example, looking at the title of the web page displayed in the browser window
>>
>> This correctly and specifically summarises one of the checks. It also matches what is in the video animation. It also does not add any undue complexity.
>>
>> I feel my misquote in review may have inadvertently caused a storm in a teacup! Sorry about that :)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> Kevin White
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
>>> Sent: 24 November 2019 21:59
>>> To: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>; White K (Kevin) <Kevin.White@gov.scot>
>>> Cc: wai-eo-editors@w3.org
>>> Subject: [Eval Videos] "some checks are as simple ..." (Video 2)
>>>
>>> Hi Shawn, Kevin,
>>>
>>> We need to find agreement on Video 2 following the Friday call.
>>>
>>> Currently the narration says:
>>>    - “Some checks are as simple as looking at the text displayed in the browser
>>> window”
>>>
>>> The suggested change is:
>>>    - “Some checks are simple. For example, looking at the text displayed in the
>>> browser window”
>>>
>>> Are we comfortable with that change or does it still seem exaggerated?
>>> Maybe replace "looking" with something like "assessing" or such?
>>>
>>> I would argue that beside "page title", also "resize text", "headings", and "labels"
>>> *can* be as simple as looking at the text displayed in the browser window. For
>>> example, if you visually don't see headings then it is usually an issue and also if the
>>> visual heading 'order' doesn't make sense then it is usually equally an issue -- you
>>> can do a lot of these checks without actually needing to look into the code.
>>>
>>> Yet I don't want to seem over simplistic because maybe only the trained can spot
>>> such issues visually while others need to look at the code?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>     Shadi
>>>
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>>> Technology Specialist Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) World Wide Web
>>> Consortium (W3C)
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