- From: Jason White <jasonw@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU>
- Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:49:15 +1000 (AEST)
- To: WAI Working Group <w3c-wai-wg@w3.org>
There are two further issues that I would like to raise at this point: 1. The relationship between LONGDESC and the metadata approach which Al has been patiently and consistently advocating for the past few months. Conceptually, of course, the two solutions are not mutually exclusive: it would be possible to make available both a LONGDESC attribute and an HTTP mechanism, each of which would be in itself capable of correlating an image with a long description. In practice, I wonder to what extent a move in favour of the LONGDESC attribute, assuming that it were to be adopted by HTML user agents, authoring tools and content providers, together with increasing acceptance of OBJECT, would preclude the widespread adoption of a metadata framework, perhaps even rendering it unnecessary. The impact of LONGDESC on metadata is another imponderable which falls for consideration in determining the merits of the proposed LONGDESC attribute. I am not acquainted with the details of the metadata approach and do not know how far it is from being widely available. Based on limited evidence I would tend to support LONGDESC as a regrettable necessity, but this is of course open to argument. 2. A few corrections need to be made to what I earlier said regarding frames. The value of NAME is not an URL fragment; TARGET is a separate concept which allows a document or other resource, designated by an URL, to be loaded into a particular frame. Nevertheless, the general point is still valid: NAME is not really intended as a title that can be presented to the user, even though, as Lynx 2.7.1 demonstrates, it can be coopted for this purpose. Furthermore, the example of frames which is given in the HTML 4.0 draft highlights the fact that the resource referred to by SRC can be an image, in which case, there is no provision for ALT text, let alone a long description. In the absence of a metadata framework, it would appear that modification of the FRAME element is necessary. Frames can be nested, thereby realising quite complex visual structures, and the content of any frame can be changed whenever a link is activated. How can such functionality be conveniently transported into the braille or audio media? How should an audio user agent render frames, and what implications does this have for markup considerations? Can it be said a priori that it would be best if each frame were labeled with a descriptive title, as proposed in my earlier message?
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