- From: Al Gilman <asgilman@access.digex.net>
- Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 15:03:27 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Geoff_Freed@wgbh.org (Geoff Freed)
- Cc: w3c-wai-wg@w3.org
The (R2/2) indicates the second of two replies to follow up on what Geoff Freed said: > > I agree strongly that all images should have a text description > of some kind, be it separate or located on the same page. ... I would demur on the "all." I hope we can articulate priorities for which images really need descriptions, because I don't think we're going to get all. > However, I think there are two categories of descriptions which > should be considered: objective and critical (or interpretive). > Objective descriptions simply provide information about what's > happening in the image; they let the user provide his or her own > interpretation. They are similar to audio descriptions used in > movies and television programs. Critical or interpretive > descriptions, on the other hand, can be used to provide either > subjective opinion, where appropriate, *or* interpretive analysis > which may not be immediately deduced from an objective > description. One need not exclude the other: a chart or graph > may require an interpretive description in addition to an > objective one. I would think that, in most cases, an objective > description would do the trick. However, I think these two types > of descriptions should be kept separate. In other words, is it > possible that some images will require two descriptions? > I agree that this distinction is useful. I tried to say that description is required and interpretation is OK. I agree that the description and interpretation should ideally be presented in a way such that the visitor can tell the difference. A good writer will communicate this distinction using natural language cues. What kind of a "keep it separate" rule would you envision? So far I am not coming up with anything that looks like a real winner. In terms of what works now, you have to look at what Jamal Mazrui is doing to take multi-file web documents and make them available as single-file text documents for blind people. The offline use of the screen-reader is their analog to our dumping things to the printer. I'm not sure that yet more separate files would deliver a net usability benefit in the end. One of the issues that I realized is floating in my mind on this objective/subjective issue is the question of who is doing the describing. NCAM and RFB&D have been in the situation of furnishing descriptions as a third party. These groups have developed a "just the facts" ethic to a high level because they are systematically providing third-party transcriptions in a lot of cases. One of the great things about the WWW is the way it often eliminates the middle-man. If we can get to the authors of the Web content, we have a first-party description situation. Here the approach can be much more free to "articulate your message" and is not limited to the "just the facts" domain of the third-party intermediary. I hope this notion of first-party speech vs. third-party transcription will help communicate why I don't think that the best practice from NCAM and RFB&D experience translates directly into recommended practice for web authors. Guidelines requiring objectivity are natural for third-party transcription. I think they are problematical for first-party annotation. -- Al Gilman
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