- From: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 08:40:48 -0500
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Foliot, John <john.foliot@chase.com> Date: Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:47 PM Subject: UAAG 2 Feedback - too late? To: "jimallan@tsbvi.edu" <jimallan@tsbvi.edu> Howdy friend! **** ** ** Hope all is well in the Lone Star state, and that you’ve not completely baked yourself to death. I musty truthfully confess that I have been remiss in reviewing UAAG 2 Draft to date; it’s a time and resources issue (as it always is).**** ** ** However, today I was doing some research and testing and noted something that I felt worth mentioning. Specifically, I am testing a report that one of our team members could not get the @title expansion on the <abbr> element, but could on the <acronym> element. This seems curious and weird, and/but a test suite and a round of testing will get to the bottom of it (I’ve not yet done the testing, that will happen this week).**** ** ** HOWEVER… when I was setting up the Unit Test for our team, I also set out to document the expected behavior, and that was an interesting search. Unless I’ve missed it, there is no specific behavior proscribed (nor even suggested) for this use case, the best I could find was: **** “1.1.1 Render Alternative Content: For any content element, the user can choose to render any types of recognized alternative content that are present. (Level A)” – which is close, but… (so comment 1 – is there something that speaks to this use-case: <abbr title=”World Wide Consortium”>W3C</abbr>?)**** ** ** ** ** Also, as I was looking around, I noted the specific absence of RFC 2119 language (MUST, SHOULD, MAY). Was this deliberate? **** ** ** As I embark on the forced march in our org, specific and precise language saves a ton of discussion down the road (and trust me, been dragged into that weed patch more than once already). For example, using that same example, I would have written it this way:**** “1.1.1 Render Alternative Content: For any content element, the user MUST be able to choose to render any type of recognized alternative content that is present. (Level A)”**** ** ** Minor editorial change, but a significant difference in instruction – more specific and in a language that engineers already clearly grok: RFC 2119 is used all over the place, including on numerous W3C documents.**** ** ** Ultimately, my test suite page looks like this:**** Expected Result(s)**** Upon encountering the abbr or acronym elements, that information SHOULD be conveyed to the screen reader user. When the title attribute is also applied, the value of the title MUST be announced on user demand (for example, the user has configured their AT to do so).**** Source: UAAG 2.0: Guideline 1.1 - Provide access to alternative content.<http://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG20/#gl-access-alternative-content>: 1.1.1 Render Alternative Content: For any content element, the user can choose to render any types of recognized alternative content that are present. (Level A) **** ****************** So, feedback/comment #2 (and realizing this is way late), I believe that UAAG would have more impact if it employed RFC 2119 language, over vaguer instructions such as “can” and “it is recommended”.**** Anyway, my $0.05 Canadian (I can no longer give just 2 cents, as Canada has abolished the penny…. J)**** ** ** JF**** -------------------------**** John Foliot**** Senior Web Accessibility Specialist**** Corporate Internet Group,**** JPMorgan Chase ** ** 600 Harrison Street, 5th Floor, San Francisco, CA, 94107**** 749 West El Camino Real, 2nd Floor, Mountain View, CA 94040 **** Mobile: 650-468-5785**** ** ** This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -- Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756 voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/ "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
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