- From: Simon Harper <simon.harper@manchester.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:28:27 +0000
- To: Jan Richards <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>
- Cc: Henny Swan <hennys@opera.com>, w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Hi Guys,
I seems to me this may help us to clarify our discussion on alert
prompt or highlight afew weeks ago, we should take this into account
regarding html5 'required'.
In addition I wonder if there is anything we need to consider
regarding the possible XHTML 2 / HTML5 schism?
Cheers
Si.
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On 24 Feb 2009, at 18:12, Jan Richards wrote:
> Hi Henny,
>
> In the example, the "required" fields are outlined in red because
> that's what the CSS says to do...
>
> But, once HTML5 becomes a recommendation (and if "required" is a
> feature) I would expect browsers to do native parsing of the
> attribute resulting in some default highlighting behaviour AND in
> the case of accessible user agents conveying the semantic fact
> ("required") in a non-visual way as well.
>
> Cheers,
> Jan
>
>
>
>
>
> Henny Swan wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> Forgive me as I'm still wading through UAAG and getting up to
>> speed with the spec, as such this may be a silly question with an
>> obvious answer but any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>> Currently HTML5 is working to put in better error handling support
>> in forms so validation can be handled by the HTML and the browser.
>> An example can be found at http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/tests/
>> html5-forms-demo.html. Currently, if you make a mistake the
>> offending form field in question is flagged by a red outline which
>> only goes so far as in aiding accessibility as non-sighted users,
>> colour blind users, people browsing with colours switched off and
>> so on will not get the information.
>> So my question is, how far is the user agent responsible for
>> flagging errors? WCAG 2.0 has a number of Success Criteria that
>> deal with error handling [1] so I'm curious to know where the line
>> is drawn in terms of author responsibility (WCAG) and user agent
>> responsibility (UAAG) when HTML5 is thrown into the mix. Should
>> the browser and HTML5 support provision of accessible warnings or
>> is it down to the page author?
>> Cheers, Henny
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/minimize-error.html
>
> --
> Jan Richards, M.Sc.
> User Interface Design Lead
> Adaptive Technology Resource Centre (ATRC)
> Faculty of Information (i-school)
> University of Toronto
>
> Email: jan.richards@utoronto.ca
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>
>
>
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