- From: Ian B. Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:48:27 -0400
- To: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
UAWG teleconference, 25 Jul 2002 Agenda announcement: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002JulSep/0045 Participants: Jon Gunderson (Chair), Ian Jacobs (Scribe), Harvey Bingham, Tim Lacy, Matt May, David Poehlman, Eric Hansen, Rich Schwerdtfeger Absent: Jim Allan Regrets: Jill Thomas, Lee Bateman Previous meeting: 14 July 2002 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002JulSep/0020 Next meeting: 8 August, 2pm ET Regrets: TL Reference document 8 July 2002 Working Draft http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/WD-UAAG10-20020708/ ========== Discussion ========== 1. Comments on 8 July UAAG working draft http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/WD-UAAG10-20020708/ Comments from Harvey: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002JulSep/0044 Comments from Rich on Guideline 6 (Techniques): http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002JulSep/0047 DP: I may be able to do a review over the weekend. TL: I don't have any significant comments to add. JG: I have sent all substantial comments I wanted to said. MM: I don't expect to send comments. Eric Hansen has sent a marked-up copy to Ian; discussion offline. Resolved: * Change priority definitions to remove must/should/may. Each checkpoint provision is a "must" anyway. * E.g., change P1 definition from: "This checkpoint must be satisfied by user agents, otherwise one or more groups of users with disabilities will find it impossible to access the Web." to: "If the user agent doesn't satisfy the checkpoint, one or more groups of users with disabilities will find it impossible to access the Web." Resolved: * Checkpoint 2.10: Delete "pre-recorded spoken text" since this is not a problem we have really encountered. The known issue we have dealt with for this checkpoint is: screen readers and visually rendered garbage. ----------- Conformance ----------- EH: In the section on "Conformance profiles" we use the term "valid conformance profile". Should be "well-formed" instead. IJ: I agree. I will change this. ----------- Glossary ----------- EH: Equivalents are a major class of conditional content. IJ: I think of these as being on two different axes. Some equivalents may not be part of conditional content (though often one of the pair is). ======================================== 2. Last call scheduling and expectations ======================================== JG: Can IJ will produce another draft for UAWG *editorial* review? IJ: I will try to have a revision by 1 August (since IJ, JG, MM, and Colin Coteles meeting 2 August in Chicago). JG: It would be good for the UAWG to see both the implementation report and the UAAG 1.0 before we agree to go to last call. Unanimously resolved: Go to last call with editorially modified version of 8 July 2002 draft plus other WG resolutions since then. Expect to go to last call between 12 and 16 August until 20 September (on request from HTML WG). IJ: Expected to review the document: DOM WG, HTML WG, Forms WG, I18N WG. IJ: I will make clear in last call review announcement that we are only expecting comments on changes from CR draft. MM: I won't be around for the few weeks after the end of last call. ======================================== 3. Draft test suites ======================================== JG: I invite your review of these draft test suites: http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/TS/uaag-html401-testsuite TL: I'm using the implementation report! It's very helpful. IJ: Your feedback on the usability of the reports, or suggested additions welcome. ================= Open action items ================= IJ: Add GECKO-API as reference in 6.4 as well as 6.2. Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002JulSep/0020.html IJ: Modifications to Checkpoint 4.1 Change second sentence in bullet one to "Text rendered at different sizes should scale proportionally." Clarify that rounding may occur and is appearing. Clarify that 4.1-4.3 are for content only by adding "content" to provision one. Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002JulSep/0020.html IJ: Review whether to add word "content" in remaining checkpoints where content only is meant. Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002JulSep/0020.html IJ: In second sufficient technique, delete "so that the user may position them independently." Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002JulSep/0020.html IJ: - Add a statement to 6.2 in normative exclusion that exporting out of process may be useful. Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002JulSep/0020.html IJ: For checkpoint 4.14: Indicate in Note that allowing the user to select more than one style sheet may be a useful way to implement other requirements of this document. Also, if the user agent offers several default style sheets, the user agent can also use these to satisfy some requirements (e.g., available on the Web; this would allow user agents to improve accessiblity of deployed user agents). Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002JulSep/0020.html JG: Write up user scenarios for why non-text-based highlighting important for users; notably which users. Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002AprJun/0027.html See for additional questions: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002AprJun/0029.html JG: Add implementation of Checkpoint 3.1 from Konqueror Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002AprJun/0177.html JG: Add user style sheets for outline view requirements in Konqueror, Opera, Amaya and IE to implementation report for Checkpoint 10.5 Outline view Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002AprJun/0177.html JG: Acrobat 5.0 generates a navigation view, so implementation of Checkpoint 10.5 Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002AprJun/0177.html JG: Add user style sheets as an implementation of configuring outline view, checkpoint 9.10 Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002AprJun/0177.html JG: Add implementation of 5.3 Manual viewport open with Mozilla, Konqueror and Snufin Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002AprJun/0177.html JG: Add to implementation report of Checkpoint 4.4: PlexTalk by Plextor (audio, http://www.plextalk.org/) Victor Reader by VisuAide (audio, http://www.visuaide.com/dtbsol.html) Victor Soft reader by VisuAide (audio, http://www.visuaide.com/dtbsol.html) LpPlayer by Labyrinten (audio, http://www.labyrinten.se/english/index.html) eNounce (audio and video, http://www.enounce.com/) Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002AprJun/0177.html ====================== Completed Action Items ====================== JG: Contact Lofton Henderson to schedule meeting to look at Colin's test suite progress. Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002JulSep/0020.html Done: In process of seeing how many QA people can come TL: Send to the UAWG a pointer to text about the functionalities available through MSAA for access to rendering information (for techniques for 6.4) Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002JulSep/0020.html Done: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002JulSep/0019.html DP: Contact Loretta for information about how Adobe implements MSAA to get or provide information about rendered information in Acrobat Reader (for example). Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2002JulSep/0020.html -- Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs Tel: +1 718 260-9447
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