- From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu>
- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:28:03 -0600
- To: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
WAI UA Telecon for January 18th, 2001
Chair: Jon Gunderson
Date: Thursday, 18 January 2001
Time: 2:00-4:00 pm Eastern Standard Time, USA
Call-in: Longfellow Bridge (+1) (617) 252-1038
Agenda
Review Open Action Items (view details below)
Announcements
1.Next User Agent face-to-face meeting in Boston on 1-2 March 2001
Discussion
1.Update on joint meetings at all working group meeting
2.Update on revisions to the 13 January working draft from IJ
3.Issue 324: How do developers interpret the phrase "appropriate for a
task" in checkpoint 6.2
Source: http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#324
Proposed resolution by IJ::
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0437.html
4.Issue 327: Add requirement for support of charset expected of each API?
Source: http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#327
Status: We resolved to add a requirement at 16 Nov face-to-face.
Proposed resolution by IJ:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2001JanMar/0088.html
5.Issue 373: Checkpoint 10.5: Propose raising to Priority 1
Source: http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#373
Proposed resolution by IJ: Don't raise this priority. It's already P1
to document all features that benefit accessibility. Therefore, while
useful, lack of
documentation of the changes specifically would not make
understanding the documentation impossible.
6.Issue 382: Checkpoint 3.2: Hard to do in many cases (e.g., when
scripts used).
Source: http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#382
Status: I wrote the reviewer asking for more details and have not
heard back yet except that the reviewer acknowledged reception of my request.
Proposed resolution by IJ: Since 3.2 is about animated images, not
all animated effects, scripting is not an issue. No change to the document.
7.Issue 389: Conformance: Hard to test conformance in an objective
fashion.
Source: http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#389
Status: I wrote the reviewer with clarifications and asked for
comment. No response yet.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2001JanMar/0038.html
Proposed resolution by IJ: We have reduced some of the conformance
requirements as a result of the reviewer's comments. We have worked very
hard on
this conformance scheme and rejected a number of others. If the
reviewer has specific suggestions, we will consider them.
8.Issue 394: Checkpoint 2.1: Vague about what cannot be provided
through a source view.
Source: http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#394
Proposed resolution by IJ:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2001JanMar/0043.html
9.Issue 443: Checkpoint 1.4: Device indepdent access to pointer (mouse)
specific events.
Source: http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#443
Status: The document currently requires emulation of mouse-specific
controls by virtue of our requirement that the user must be able to do
everything through
the mouse.
Discussion:
a) Do we want to require the UA to repair device-specific bindings
specified by the author?
b) Do we have evidence that the ability to simulate mouse events
through the keyboard benefits the user?
10.Issue 445: Checkpoint 1.3: What about systems that do not use the
keyboard at all, but provide accessibility solutions?
Source: http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#445
Proposed resolution by IJ: UAAG 1.0 is designed to promote
accessibility of the Web for users with many types of disabilities.
Keyboard access is
considered fundamental for this. This document is not designed to
promote the accessibility of specialized user agents. Therefore no change
to our
requirements.
11.Issue 446: Checkpoint 6.1: Consider making the checkpoint scalable
(variable priority linked to WCAG).
Source: http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#446
Status: We have already discussed this (refer to issue 111 [1]) and
resolved to leave this a priority one checkpoint. The rationale has been
that if user agents
don't implement features, authors will never be able to use them.
Therefore, UAAG 1.0 must "lead".
[1] http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear.html#111
12.Issue 447: Conformance by default w.r.t. configuration requirements
Source: http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#447
Status: The reviewer's comment was that the document said that the
user agent should work by default. But since the document requires lots of
configurability
to meet the different needs of users, for which users should the
document work by default? The problematic sentence in the last call draft
was "Note: User
agent developers are strongly encouraged to design software that
conforms in the default configuration." That statement has been removed
from the 13
January 2001 draft because it doesn't make sense: You don't "conform"
in the default configuration. You simply conform or you don't. Therefore,
unless there
are objections or other comments. I would consider this issue resolved.
13.Issue 448: Checkpoint 5.7: Is CSS read-only or read/write? [This is
checkpoint 5.9 in the 13 January 2001 draft.]
Source: http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#448
Comment: The reviewer's comment was "Is this section referring to
viewing the page or editing the page? Why would a user need to access the
CSS when
viewing a document?"
Proposed resolution by IJ: Make this requirement read-only access. -
We already require that a conforming user agent allow the user to select
and apply
user style sheets (checkpoint 4.15 in 13 Jan 2001 draft). - We
require that the user be able to operate the user agent through keyboard
alone. - Therefore,
the user should be able to apply user style sheets through the
conforming UA's user interface. ATs do not need to write to user style
sheets through an API.
Can people suggest a scenario where the AT would need to write to the
conforming user agent's user style sheet through an API?
Open Action Items
1.IJ: Update 8.8 techniques.
Done, will appear in next draft
2.IJ, EH, AG: Propose new definitions forterms in question
(equivalence, text element, etc.)
3.IJ: Get wording from Martin for thisrequirement (e.g., "conform",
"implement", etc.) for issue 327
4.IJ and EH: to review the definition of "presentation" to possibly
drop URI-dependencies.
5.IJ and EH: Work on definition of "animation" that identifies
"animated image" as a special case. Also talks about script effects, style
sheets effects, markup
languages as being able to create animations. (Blinking not part of
animations...?)
6.IJ: Put info about MSAA and JAVAAPI in 5.3 techniques. Add TeX, RTF,
PDF, Postscript (Flash?), Word, Excel
Source:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2001JanMar/0083.html
7.IJ: Add clarification statement to checkpoint 7.3 to the document
Source:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2001JanMar/0083.html
8.IJ: Add to directional navigation to techniques to checkpoint 7.3
Source:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2001JanMar/0083.html
9.JG: Talk to Al Gilman at the next WAI CG meeting about a joint
meeting with UA, PF, and Voice WG (or participants) to discuss
accessibility issues.
Source:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2001JanMar/0083.html
10.JG: Send screen shots of directional techniqes
Source:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2001JanMar/0083.html
11.JG: Implementation information for guideline 2
12.JG: Propose text for the techniques document about synthesized speech
implementation issues. Notably UA and AT wanting to use the same synthesizer
engine.
13.JG: Create issue list for things that need to be addressed in the
next version of the document
14.DP: Send information about tools that allow mouse binding reconfiguration
Source:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2001JanMar/0083.html
15.GR: Review checkpoints in Guideline 10 for implementation information
16.GR: Talk to AFB about captioning and positioning (deadline 1/18/2001)
17.JA: Review checkpoints in Guideline 4 for implementation information
18.MQ: Send more details about control of speech parameters for the
techniques document based on OpenBook. (deadline open)
19.KB: Submit technique on providing information on current item and
number of items in search
Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
MC-574
College of Applied Life Studies
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL 61820
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E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu
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