- From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:33:14 -0500
- To: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
9 November 2000 UA Guidelines Teleconference
Present:
Jon Gunderson, Ian Jacobs, Mickey Quenzer,
Harvey Bingham, Kitch Barnicle, Gregory Rosmaita,
Tim Lacy, Jim Allan, David Poehlman
Regrets:
Debby Fletter (from AOL), Eric Hansen
Absent:
Rich Schwerdtfeger, Charles McCathieNevile
Upcoming meetings:
16 November (face-to-face)
http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2000/11/ua-meeting
23 November: No meeting (Thanksgiving)
30 November: Teleconference
Agenda:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0226.html
Minutes of previous meeting 2 November
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0210.html
Review Action Items (see details below)
Announcements
1.ER/PF FTF meeting in Washington, D.C. on 4-5 December
JG: I plan to attend.
Discussion
1.User Agent FTF meeting update
http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2000/11/ua-meeting
Ian has reserved hotel rooms
Have registration from AOL: Scott Totman
Action IJ: Update meeting page with more details about hotel.
2.Last call update
Not many reviews yet...
3.Implementation report
IJ: Note that it's interesting to have information about
a) How software satisfies requirements in general.
b) How software satisfies requirements in the specific
context of this document: mainstream UAs with ATs.
Guideline 1. Support input and output device-independence.
DP:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0206.html
JA:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0206.html
Guideline 2. Ensure user access to all content.
JG:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0200.html
Guideline 3. Allow the user to configure the user agent not to
render some content that may reduce accessibility.
HB: not yet available
Guideline 4. Ensure user control of styles.
JA: not available
MQ: I found some information about speech synthesizers.
Don't know any ATs that implement style sheets (CSS2 aural
properties).
IJ: What about emacspeak
Action IJ: Ask Jason white for info.
Action GR: Talk to Håkon about CSS support.
Guideline 5. Observe system conventions and standard interfaces.
JG:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0146.html
JG:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0149.html
RS:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0163.html
Guideline 6. Implement specifications that promote accessibility.
need reviewer
IJ: There may be some Team-confidential information I can
show the Director.
Guideline 7. Provide navigation mechanisms.
JA:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0152.html
Guideline 8. Orient the user.
Assigned to KB.
Guideline 9. Allow configuration and customization.
Assigned to JG.
Guideline 10. Provide accessible product documentation and help.
GR: not available
Action: Have a new implementation report for the meeting.
4. Agenda
IJ: If we have time beyond handling issues, what would we do?
1) Discuss our goals for all W3C WG in February 2001.
JG: From WAI CG, I didn't get strong vibes that other WAI WGs
want to meet with us; they want to meet with other WGs.
2) Review the trouble spots of the implementation report
3) Review the trouble spots of the Techniques document
JG: I'll try to prepare for this.
4) What we will do if we have to go to CR?
MQ: My expectation was to get implementation experience
from reviewers.
GR: Some reviewers aren't forthcoming about their support
for features, e.g., the DOM.
5) Brainstorming on requirements for next draft.
6) How to get W3C Members involved, integration of accessibility
features into specs or separate?
7) MQ: I'd like to talk about promotion of the document.
JG: We need to coordinate with EO.
8) Coordination with other WGs in general.
GR: And ER in particular.
/* Discussion about current implementations v. forward-looking
requirements */
Resolved:
- In Note after 4.14 explain that the CSS2 reference is
there to provide background information about what the
terms mean.
Action IJ: Improve wording of Note.
Action MQ: Send more details about these parameters for
the techniques document based on OpenBook.
Action JG: Send a call for agenda items to the list.
5.Issue #321: Equivalency relationships and the wording of checkpoint
2.3
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0085.html
IJ: I think that there are two issues:
- Definitions
- Requirements.
IJ: I haven't heard much disagreement in the way of requirements.
Mostly in the way of definitions.
/* IJ describes how alternative is more about author-side
and equivalent is about user-side */
GR: If we don't have convergence in use of terms between WCAG 1.0
and UAAG 1.0, need to report an erratum (and work on convergence
for WCAG 2.0).
GR: There are (or were) a number of sites that translated text
into braille (with GIFs of individual braille characters). But
I also want to know "this has dots 1, 2, 4, and 6". Another layer
of abstraction is "this is the precise mapping of the dot". Another
human-understandable is the roman alphabet equivalent.
GR: I can't tell whether the issue is editorial (definitional)
yet until I see another version.
JG: I think that it's really in the WCAG court to say what
an equivalent is (and how it's identified). And we need to
focus on making those available.
GR: I think that different classes of equivalents becomes a UA issue
(e.g., to provide access to more or less verbose equivalents).
IJ: We are awaiting information from Eric on this topic.
6.Issue #322: The definition of the word element
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0131.html
Open Action Items
1.GR: Contacts for Dolphin for reviewing WCAG
Continued
2.GR: Review checkpoints in Guideline 10 for implementation information
Continued
4.KB: Submit technique on providing information on current item and
number of items in search
Continued
5.JA: Review checkpoints in Guideline 4 for implementation information
Continued
6.HB: Review guideline 3 for implementation information
Continued
7.CMN: Send a proposed definition of equivalent to the group
Not done
Completed Action Items
1.IJ: Reserve hotel rooms for FTF meeting
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0220.html
2.JG: Add issues from adobe review to the issues list
http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear.html
3.JG: Send a last call reminder to chairs, WAI groups and invited
reviewers
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2000OctDec/0449.html
3.MQ: Review speech checkpoints for implementation information
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0225.html
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