Re: Proposal to delete Guideline 9 (Notification)

Ian,
Seems OK to me.  There were only three checkpoints in that guideline anyway.

Jon


At 09:22 PM 10/11/2000 -0400, Ian Jacobs wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Deleting Guideline 9 may sound like a radical proposal, but
>I don't think it is. Here's the idea:
>
>In the 29 September Guidelines, the Guideline reads
>"Alert the user of content and viewport changes." However,
>the checkpoints under Guideline 9 are not about notification.
>The three Guideline 9 checkpoints are:
>
>    9.1 Ensure that when the selection or content focus changes,
>        it is in a viewport after the change.
>
>This checkpoint could easily go alongside checkpoints 4.18 and
>4.19, which are about viewports opening and focus changes.
>
>    9.2 Allow configuration so the user is prompted to confirm any
>        form submission not caused by explicit activation of a
>        form submit control.
>
>    9.3 Indicate the relative position of the viewport in rendered
>       content (e.g., the proportion of an audio or video clip that
>       has been played, the proportion of a Web page that has been
>       viewed, etc.).
>
>These checkpoints could easily go in Guideline 8 (Orientation).
>
>Thus, I think that since none of the checkpoints in Guideline 9
>are really about notification, we should delete the Guideline
>and redistribute the checkpoints appropriately.
>
>Where did the "notification" checkpoints go? In the 5 November 1999
>draft (the "first" last call draft <smile>), Guideline 9 included
>six checkpoints. The additional checkpoints were:
>
>9.1 Provide information about user agent-initiated
>     content and viewport changes directly to the user
>     and through APIs. [Priority 1]
>
>9.4 Allow the user to configure notification preferences for common
>types
>     of content and viewport changes. [Priority 3]
>
>9.5 When loading content (e.g., document, video clip, audio clip, etc.)
>     indicate what portion of the content has loaded and whether loading
>     has stalled. [Priority 3]
>
>Working backwards, here's where they went:
>
>1) Checkpoint 9.5 ("stalled" loading). At the 10 August 2000 teleconf
>[3],
>    the WG resolved to delete this checkpoint since it could not identify
>    any requirement specific to accessibility. Notification of loading
>status
>    is important to everyone and the UA must present that information in
>    accessible manner (covered by checkpoint 1.5).
>
>2) Checkpoint 9.4 (configuration of notification preferences). This
>    checkpoint is a configuration checkpoint for 9.1, so when 9.1 was
>    deleted 9.4 was also deleted. Refer to the resolution to delete at
>the
>    31 August teleconference [4].
>
>3) Checkpoint 9.1 (information about changes).  We resolved to delete
>this
>    checkpoint at the 20 January 2000 teleconference [5] as a result of
>    review during the first last call. We also raised the priority of the
>    checkpoint requiring user control of changes (now checkpoint 3.7).
>    For more background, refer to issue 142 [6].
>
>Thanks,
>
>  - Ian
>
>P.S. I'm making this proposal in order to help ensure that each
>      checkpoint fits under a Guideline appropriately. I would note,
>      however, that if we delete Guideline 9, we also have the attractive
>      result of ten Guidelines...
>
>[1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/WD-UAAG10-20000929/
>[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/WD-WAI-USERAGENT-19991105/
>[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000JulSep/0232.html
>[4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000JulSep/0341.html
>[5] http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2000/01/wai-ua-telecon-20000120.html
>[6] http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear.html#142
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