- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:57:19 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Jon Gunderson <jongund@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
- cc: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
I think it is extremely desirable for Universal Design to be the obvious aproach to meeting the requirements, and that it is extemely desirable that it is the approach taken by developers. If somebody has to get special parts to meet their needs, then it isn't really the same as picking a product off the shelf. That said, the requirement is that people can use a user agent regardless of disability. If a browser comes in a version that is not accessible, and is available in a version that is if you get a "non-standard, accessible version" it makes a mockery of any developer's commitment to total accessibility (and says nasty things about their design approach to some) but it doesn't mean that there isn't a solution available to people who need one, which is the ultimate goal. There are of course considerations like partial upgrades - it would be insane not to point out that a particular combination will actually solve people's problems, just becuase it doesn't all come in the one box. (Although it would be perfectly reasonable to enquire just when this combination would be available in one box...) I think that we do not do ourselves a service byb forgetting our most important goal is that everyone can use the web. The fact that everyone can use any browser is slightly secondary - there will always be bad products as well as good ones. People should not be forced to use junk, and we should be able to provide the best solution available to people, in whatever form that comes. Charles McCN On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Jon Gunderson wrote: I talked to Denis Anson this weekend about the conformance issues discussed at the last UA telecon. His first reaction is that he doesn't see a problem with developers using add-ins or other supplementary techniques for a product to conform to the UA document, as long as they are clearly documented. I am going to raise this issue with the coordination group tomorrow to get additional input for the group to consider. Some of my additional thoughts/questions: 1. We have said for other issues that people can do something poorly (usually a usability problem), but still conform to the guidelines. This may be another case where ideally (from my perspective) accessibility features required for conformance should be part of the standard configuration. If a developer chooses not to include any or all accessibility features as part of the standard configuration, but does provide and document other components needed for compliance that would seem to technical satisfy the conformance requirements. 2. My biggest concern is the issue of universal design, where features for people with disabilities are considered different than for other people. The more general approach to a conformance statement seems sanction the different type of thinking. I am not sure if is the purpose of the UA group to promote the universal design approach to accessibility or just accessibility in any form. In any case I will raise this issue for discussion with the CG group. Jon Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services MC-574 College of Applied Life Studies University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign 1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL 61820 Voice: (217) 244-5870 Fax: (217) 333-0248 E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu WWW: http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund WWW: http://www.w3.org/wai/ua -- -- Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +61 (0) 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI Location: I-cubed, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton VIC 3053 Postal: GPO Box 2476V, Melbourne 3001, Australia
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