- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 05:13:50 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- cc: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
I guess there is still an important issue of whether we require AT to access
through an API. (Rich, I'm fishing for comment here <grin/>). If not, then
producing the content through the UI is how the user is going to find out
what happened. I thought we had a seperate checkpoint that required taht, adn
the configuration was to allow the user to turn that off.
Charles MCN
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Ian Jacobs wrote:
Hello,
In the 7 July Guidelines [1], checkpoint 9.3 (Priority 3) reads:
Allow the user to configure notification preferences for
common types of content and viewport changes.
Note: For example, allow the user to choose to be notified
(or not) that a script has been executed, that
a new viewport has been opened, that a pulldown menu has
been opened, that a new frame has received focus, etc.
1) Since this checkpoint does not specify that it is about notification
through an API (which is covered by checkpoint 5.5), our document
says that this checkpoint refers to notification through the
user interface.
2) Looking back at the history of the checkpoint
(checkpoint 10.2 was introduced in the 9 July 1999 draft [3]), I
believe that originally this requirement was supposed to apply to
notification through an API and notification through the UI.
Refer to 30 June 1999 discussion [4]. We dropped filters
on the API notification at some point since applications can
filter out whatever they wish.
3) If notification is to be provided through the UI, then by
default all events would have to be indicated to the user.
How would that work in practice? We have to address that
question before we discuss how filtering will work.
4) If we try to identify a minimal set of events that are
"common types of content and viewport changes", what
would be in that set? We could use the information
in the Note after the checkpoint, but that list is
short and two of them are covered by other checkpoints:
a) a script has been executed
b) a viewport has been opened (but control over viewport opening
is covered by checkpoint 4.16).
c) a pulldown menu has been opened.
d) a new frame has received focus (but control of focus
change is covered by checkpoint 4.15).
I would note that checkpoint 1.5 already requires that messages
from the UA have text equivalents in the UI.
5) The techniques document [2] talks about frame techniques but mostly
disabling notification of changes (on an element basis, for css
properties,
and for changing animations. In short, we don't have many techniques
explaining what events should trigger notifications, nor how that
information could be communicated to the user (e.g., through the
status bar).
6) Who does notification through the UI benefit? For users with
assistive technologies, we already require that all changes
be sent through an API. What users using the UA's native
UI benefit from notification of changes?
I'm looking for answers to these questions to figure out what
the minimal requirements for 9.3 are or whether we should delete it.
I realize that notification is very important, but we should flesh
this checkpoint out before we continue with it.
- Ian
[1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/WD-UAAG10-20000707/
[2]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/WD-UAAG10-TECHS-20000707/#tech-configure-change-notification
[3] http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/WAI-USERAGENT-19990709/
[4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/1999AprJun/0265.html
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