- From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu>
- Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 08:54:51 -0500
- To: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
- Cc: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Al, Good point. If browsers only rendered valid HTML, then most web pages would not be available. Jon At 12:34 AM 7/15/2000 -0400, you wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >Ian Jacobs > >Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 9:56 AM > > >Subject: Issues about UA Guidelines raised during MAC IE evaluation > > > > > > > >ISSUES > > > >Issue 3) Repair functionalities required? > > > > Question: The UA Guidelines requires conformance to specifications. > >However, > > it also requires in checkpoint 2.5 a repair functionality that is not > >part > > of conformance to a specification: > > > > 2.5 For non-text content that has no recognized text equivalent, > > generate a text equivalent from other author-supplied content. > > If the non-text content is included by URI reference, base the > > text equivalent on the URI reference and the content type of > > the resource. > > > > This document is asking the UA to repair broken markup, but the HTML > > specification doesn't require this. Although I doubt that there's > > much of an interoperability issue here, the question is pertinent: > > if we ask UAs to do things but don't provide a standard for doing > > so, we threaten interoperability. > > > > So the question is: should we require this repair functionality? > > What do we tell browser developers who ask "Where does it say in > > the markup language specification how to do this?" > > > >AG:: > >I myself would not let the browser vendors hide behind the specification as >far as error recovery is concerned. It is reasonable for the users to >expect the browser to handle more errors and handle them more gracefully >than just what is specified in the format specification. > >I have always felt that the UAAG had a right/duty to define the >HTML-processing behavior required for cross-disability usability. And to >go beyond what is provided in the HTML specification where necessary to >define this. We have an obligation not to override what the specification >_does specify_ without good reason; but where the HTML spec _fails to >specify_ things, such as behavior for out-of-spec pages, it is entirely up >to the UAAG to decide what is appropriate and required. > >Yes, we have to be careful to only ask for what is important. On the other >hand, the principle being raised in this issue is a bad principle. If web >browsers hadn't performed lots of error recovery that makes life easy for >authors and nominally-abled users, we wouldn't have the immensely popular >web we have today. 'Repair' was part and parcel of making the Web a game >all could play. So asking for a few well-selected repairs that help people >with disabilities where they need help should be fair game. It is not >undue burden or anything at all out of the ordinary. > >Al Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services MC-574 College of Applied Life Studies University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign 1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL 61820 Voice: (217) 244-5870 Fax: (217) 333-0248 E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu WWW: http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund WWW: http://www.w3.org/wai/ua
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