Re: Proposal to delete checkpoint 3.2 and expand 4.10

Jon Gunderson wrote:
> 
> Ian,
> So every time a sound object is rendered to the user will be prompted for
> volume for that resource?

You're not prompted. You can go in and set the volume if you wish.
It's not a requirement on the user to set the volume, but a requirement
on the user agent to change volume if they wish.
 
> If is a SMIL document with 50 sounds sources they will need to specify 50
> volume levels?

Not required to set, but given the option of setting any one,
should they need to.

 - Ian
> 
> At 10:43 AM 6/12/00 -0400, Ian Jacobs wrote:
> >Jon Gunderson wrote:
> > >
> > > Ian,
> > >
> > > How do you define an audio source?
> > > Is a source an author specification of some type of audio
> > > resource or is it an API or hardware used to play the
> > > author specified audio resource?
> >
> >Content provided by the author that when rendered,
> >produces sound. This could be pre-recorded sounds
> >or synthesized speech, for example.
> >
> >   - Ian
> >
> >
> > > At 10:28 PM 6/9/00 -0400, Ian Jacobs wrote:
> > > >Hello,
> > > >
> > > >After several hours of discussions today with Charles
> > > >and Eric Hansen, I would like to propose the following
> > > >changes to the document. The checkpoint numbers are those
> > > >of the 7 May Guidelines [1].
> > > >
> > > >This proposal concerns "volume" related checkpoints. Here
> > > >are the checkpoints that include requirements for volume
> > > >control:
> > > >
> > > >3.2 Allow the user to turn on and off rendering of
> > > >     background audio. [Priority 1]
> > > >3.4 Allow the user to turn on and off rendering of
> > > >     audio. [Priority 1]
> > > >4.8 Allow the user to configure the audio volume.
> > > >     [Priority 2]
> > > >4.10 Allow the user to configure synthesized speech volume.
> > > >     [Priority 1]
> > > >
> > > >At the 8 June teleconference, we resolved to change
> > > >the priority of 4.8 to P1.
> > > >
> > > >I propose changing the requirements embodied by
> > > >these three checkpoints to the following:
> > > >
> > > >  1) On/off control of global audio
> > > >     (When audio is a distraction. This is a special
> > > >      case of the second requirement, but can stand alone.)
> > > >
> > > >  2) Control of global audio volume
> > > >     (For users who are hard of hearing and users for whom
> > > >      audio is a distraction.)
> > > >
> > > >  3) Relative control of volume among audio objects.
> > > >     (Currently, this is only applied to the particular
> > > >      case of synthesized speech. For notes on discussion
> > > >      about this requirement, refer to 8 June minutes [2].)
> > > >
> > > >Note that checkpoint 3.2 is about "background audio". What is the
> > > >difference between turning off background audio and turning
> > > >off audio, except when background audio is an identifiable track
> > > >that may be turned off independently of other audio? I'm not
> > > >sure there is a difference, but to capture the requirement
> > > >of being able to make background audio go away, I propose
> > > >augmenting the scope of 4.10 to cover all audio objects.
> > > >Thus, we would end up with the following three priority
> > > >one checkpoints:
> > > >
> > > >1) Allow the user to turn on and off rendering of audio.
> > > >2) Allow the user to configure the audio volume.
> > > >3) Allow the user to control the volume of audio sources
> > > >    independently.
> > > >
> > > >Notes:
> > > >
> > > >1) The applicability clause is in effect here. Therefore,
> > > >    if some other agent renders the audio, that agent is
> > > >    responsible for volume control.
> > > >
> > > >2) It might be possible to narrow the scope of checkpoint
> > > >    three to the two cases already discussed in the document:
> > > >    background audio and synthesized speech. However, defining
> > > >    "background audio" is difficult and I don't know whether
> > > >    life would be any easier on developers if we did. Does anyone
> > > >    know of existing software where the user can control the
> > > >    volume of different audio sources independently?
> > > >
> > > >  - Ian
> > > >
> > > >[1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/WD-UAAG10-20000507
> > > >[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000AprJun/0429.html
> >
> >
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> 
> Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
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