- From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@staff.uiuc.edu>
- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:24:52 -0600
- To: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>, "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <unagi69@concentric.net>
- Cc: User Agent Guidelines Emailing List <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
Ian, I think Gregory just wants the table extended to include keyboard navigation techniques for access the help system to show where there are some other problems with NN. Jon At 03:04 PM 11/21/99 -0500, Ian Jacobs wrote: >"Gregory J. Rosmaita" wrote: >> >> aloha, y'all! >> >> it still really bothers me that there is still no mention of the lack of >> keyboard accessibility (including the inability to close NetHelp via the >> standard Windows95 keybinding for that action) in the Netscape Navigator >> Keyboard Shortcuts section of the Techniques document... > >Hi Gregory, > >I'm not sure what action to take based on your comment. > >1) Do you mean that Netscape should be told that their UA is >not accessible through the keyboard? > >2) Do you mean that inclusion of the NN binding table suggests >that NN is accessible but it's not? > >3) Do you mean that we should say explicitly in the Techniques >Document that NN is not accessible? > >I think one is a good idea. Two is a possibility, but I don't >think necessary. Three I don't agree with. > >If there is an action item to figure out about keyboard access >to the help system, I'm unaware of it since it's not indicated in >the minutes of [1] as an action item. > >[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/1999OctDec/0331.html > >> http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-USERAGENT-TECHS/tech-document-default-input >> >> please refer to my posts on this topic, archived at: >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/1999OctDec/0231.html >> and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/1999OctDec/0232.html >> >> i understood, on the basis of jon's post, archived at: >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/1999OctDec/0237.html >> that my comments were to be rolled into the Navigator Keyboard Shortcuts >> section, and that others would investigate keyboard support for NetHelp >> under Unix and on the Mac, but so far, there has (apparently) been no such >> action taken... > >I only understand Jon's comment "we need to add functions related to >help" as a confirmation of the issue. > >What are proposing to add to the techniques? > > - Ian > >> the lack of keyboard support, labels for graphics, and the inability to >> close the NetHelp window from the keyboard is a major problem with the help >> system that comes bundled with Navigator, and its current design and lack >> of functionality violates several checkpoints, and it should be documented >> as such... >> >> please note that this is not an attack on Netscape, but an attempt to >> illustrate the fact that many applications which feature robust keyboard >> support for the application's UI, fail to provide similar support for the >> help system... > >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net> >> WebMaster and Minister of Propaganda, VICUG NYC >> <http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/vicug/index.html> >> -------------------------------------------------------- > >-- >Ian Jacobs (jacobs@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs >Tel/Fax: +1 212 684-1814 >Cell: +1 917 450-8783 Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology Chair, W3C WAI User Agent Working Group Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services College of Applied Life Studies University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign 1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL 61820 Voice: (217) 244-5870 Fax: (217) 333-0248 E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu WWW: http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund WWW: http://www.w3.org/wai/ua
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