- From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@staff.uiuc.edu>
- Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 09:00:59 -0700
- To: thatch@us.ibm.com
- Cc: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Responses in JRG: >In a recent post, I commented my shock to find that neither Lynx >nor our HPR used title, so boldly advocated by WAI. We both >look to name if it exists. Lynx uses the name attribute or the src >for its list of frames; HPR uses the Title (element) of the frame page >and the name if the frame page has no title. I have not tried >pwWebSpeak yet, but your image suggests that that they use neither. JRG: In the recently purchased version (last 34 weeks) of HPR I tried labeling the NAME attribute different from the TITLE attribute in the frame set and HPR only used the name attribute when rendering. This URL has TIITLE and NAME attribute defined for each element that are different from each other. http://cmos-eng.rehab.uiuc.edu/class/finance-chapter06/ppframe-title.html pwWebSpeak currently doesn't seem to use either NAME or TITLE attribute of a frame element that I can see. > >Here are some examples: > >As an example of frame navigation, here is what Lynx presents >for the five frames at the, www.macys.com. > > FRAME: leftblank > FRAME: topnav > FRAME: content > FRAME: bottomnav > FRAME: rightblank > >The words describing the frames are the values of the name >attribute on each FRAME element. These are informative, but >could be better. Next, here's the way Home Page Reader >sees the frame list for Macy's. > >[Frame 1 (leftblank): Untitled] >[Frame 2: Top Nav] >[Frame 3: Macy*s Home] JRG: I looked at the Macy's source and it does not label any of the frame elements with a defined title attribute. It appears that the title that HPR is generating a title ased on the contents of the TITLE element in the HEAD block of the source reference URL. This is another technique for determining a title for a frame and I will update the frame techniques to include it. Thanks for the for the critical eye! Jon Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology Chair, W3C WAI User Agent Working Group Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign 1207 S. Oak Street Champaign, IL 61820 Voice: 217-244-5870 Fax: 217-333-0248 E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu WWW: http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund http://www.w3.org/wai/ua http://www.als.uiuc.edu/InfoTechAccess
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