- From: Martin Gordon <Martin.Gordon@charitycommission.gov.uk>
- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 14:43:38 +0000
- To: David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
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Indeed, the progressive enhancement pattern we all worked hard towards seems to have fallen by the wayside. Semantic HTML to provide meaning ARIA to add support for AT where required CSS to enhance presentation JS to add functional interaction Unfortunately ARIA is used as a backstop for when Accessibility is an afterthought. ________________________________ From: David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk> Sent: 25 April 2025 15:11 To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Subject: Re: 1.3.1 On 25/04/2025 11:29, Ms J wrote: > For example, if parts of the page have been marked up with list mark up > that aren't lists. Unfortunately that cause was probably lost two decades ago. The way that people, trying for compliance, now do it is to use ARIA to provide the true semantics, and HTML and CSS, to achieve the visual result they want. Personally, I like the idea that you start with semantic HTML, then define a house style, in CSS, but I think most web page designers go for the visual appearance, with any tool available, and then add ARIA to pass the accessibility audit. In many cases it is actually the tools they are using those, based on standard formats. I think your proposed wording is changing the meaning, rather than clarifying it. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________
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