- From: Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>
- Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2024 12:17:49 +0000
- To: "Patrick H. Lauke" <redux@splintered.co.uk>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
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Thanks to everyone for all the responses. They raise a couple of questions, though: 1. If data entry requires the use of an undiscoverable keyboard interaction (and we do encounter them), can we report a non-conformance of SC 3.3.2 (Labels or Instructions)? The normative text and Understanding page don't mention this at all - they focus entirely on the labelling of controls and data validation rules. 1. If undiscoverable keyboard interactions relate to functionality other than data entry, it appears that they don't violate any success criterion. Surely that can't be right. After spending an hour trawling through GitHub, I have some understanding of it. It's pretty daunting for someone who doesn't use GitHub in their work. It's safe to say I would never have found that Commit page if I didn't know it existed. And the distinction between Issues and Discussions is far from clear. I have subscribed to notifications and will participate as best I can. Sadly, membership is unaffordable for me. I had a look at keyboard.html commits<https://github.com/w3c/wcag/commits/main/understanding/20/keyboard.html>, but it’s full of all kinds of stuff. What I really want is a changelog for each Understanding page (and perhaps other pages such as techniques). I have no idea how easy that would be, but I will raise an issue anyway. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 10:37 AM To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Re: Recent changes to the WCAG 2.2 SC 2.1.1 Understanding page Thanks Bryan, these are all useful and good observations. To the original point, these are all things that are not normatively required by the SC, and never have been. Many auditors have added these in the own interpretation or what 2.1.1 should say, and that these factors are all involved in deciding whether or not content passes or fails 2.1.1, even though this was not in the spec per se. Hence the recent additions to the understanding in 2.2 tried to clarify this, as it historically led to inconsistent audit results. P -- Patrick H. Lauke * https://www.splintered.co.uk/ * https://github.com/patrickhlauke * https://flickr.com/photos/redux/ * https://mastodon.social/@patrick_h_lauke
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