- From: Adam Cooper <cooperad@bigpond.com>
- Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 11:23:02 +1000
- To: "'Patrick H. Lauke'" <redux@splintered.co.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Patrick, If returning focus to the document is a failure of SC 2.4.3 as I contend, then surely this is - by definition (not that the levels of conformance are defined clearly) - a 'show stopper' because it is a Level A failure? This brings to mind things like 'barrier scores' from yesteryear or severity metrics much like functional testing - an overlay on levels of conformance that make them irrelevant. If it is not a failure of SC 2.4.3 as has been suggested, then this is because focus becoming indeterminate (i.e., returned to the document object) is thought to constitute navigation. Alas, it does not in and of itself. Never has; never will. Activating a hyperlink either moves focus to somewhere else in the same view or loads a new page upon which focus being applied to the document object is expected behaviour. Navigation is after all the purpose of hyperlinks in the HTML specification: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/dev/links.html#:~:text=Hyperlinks,Internal%20resource%20links A sort hyperlink does not navigate within a document nor load a new view - it merely modifies and existing view. Yes, this function could have been implemented using a button, and, yes, still a failure of SC 2.4.3 because operability is not preserved in my view (and experience). Hacky solution = use JS to maintain focus on the hyperlink once sort is completed. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 10:30 AM To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Re: Sortable Table Focus Order On 09/04/2024 00:42, Adam Cooper wrote: > so, if it is ‘not ideal for the user’, what is the purpose of WCAG > exactly? Isn’t its purpose to ‘make the web more accessible’? Particularly at A and AA, establish an absolute baseline that, when not met, prevents users from accessing/using web content. This here goes more into "it could be done better, but isn't a showstopper". P -- Patrick H. Lauke * https://www.splintered.co.uk/ * https://github.com/patrickhlauke * https://flickr.com/photos/redux/ * https://mastodon.social/@patrick_h_lauke
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