- From: Guy Hickling <guy.hickling@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:27:03 +0000
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This is to answer Sarah's original query in the Reflow thread, and give my take on it (others may differ). Since that thread is now all about AI, I'm starting a new thread for this answer. It will probably help if any more comments on AI are kept in the earlier thread "Re: Reflow". First, this SC has an advisory technique specifically for images, Technique C37:"Using CSS max-width and height to fit images". It basically says that to avoid the need for a horizontal scroll bar at high zoom, we can limit the size of the image to ensure it stays within the available window or other container without scrolling - i.e. it doesn't zoom with the rest of the content. I think that recommendation partially answers this question - some images don't need to zoom to high levels. Those images should, I believe, be treated as covered by the SC and not zoom to the point of needing a scroll bar. For most mages, like the example you quote of photos in a news article, landscapes and townscapes for instance, or head shots of a person, that's probably ok, people can still understand the picture, albeit at a smaller size than if the image were zoomed with the other content. (On the other hand, a particular image might show an important small object somewhere in the scene, that would be lost to low vision users without zooming - that could be an exception.) But the SC specifically excepts mentions "images required for understanding (such as maps and diagrams)". Maps and charts and graphs usually have a lot of writing on them. To someone needing 400% or more zoom to read the surrounding text content, keeping a graph image small, aka Technique C37, would leave the text on the graph too small for them to read. Hence why the SC classifies that kind of image as an exception to the SC, and it's ok to zoom them beyond the viewport. The same would apply to an infographic with lots of text in it; they usually fail SC1.4.5 "Images of Text", of course, but if there was one that validly passed 1.4.5, then it would be an "image required for understanding" that could be allowed to expand beyond the viewport. So, critically, whether an image is caught by the Reflow SC, or can be excepted and allowed to zoom with a scroll bar, I think we have to decide whether, and by how much, the image is an "image required for understanding". That is often a subjective decision. Consider a head shot of the prime minister, for instance, in a news report. Is that informational? Not really, I would say, most people know what he looks like and such a photo would probably just be there to add visual interest to the report. But if the police published a similar head shot of a dangerous criminal with a warning to people to keep clear of them (no, not the prime minister!), that photo is highly important information so should be zoomed along with the other content for people with low vision needing high zoom. I hope this answers your query, and sorry for the delay in replying to your second query. BTW: I think the phrase used in the this SC and it's second Note, "two-dimensional layout", is somewhat confusing here, and hard to understand (and maybe why this question was asked). All images are by their nature two-dimensional, but I think only some images are in scope of the SC. You can't really say that a photo has "two-dimensional layout" in quite the same way a data table has. No one laid it out, it's just what the camera saw. A bit of clarification or re-wording to that Note might not come amiss.
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