- From: Marc Haunschild <marc.haunschild@accessibility.consulting>
- Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 11:08:23 +0200
- To: Marc Haunschild <marc.haunschild@accessibility.consulting>
- Cc: Armony ALTINIER - Koena <armony@koena.net>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
- Message-Id: <B8A22C61-2230-4478-9B2F-18758541AC97@accessibility.consulting>
It also has a strong use case, that hidden text is not announced - so you can switch it by changing the display property value with JavaScript to control which (of several) texts should be read - for example depending on user input - to name just one example. Especially because we have CSS styles to effectively hide texts only visually. For me this is a very inconsistent approach and I really hate it. But it is, like it is and that's how we have to use it... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Marc Haunschild - he / him - #gernPerDu Prüfstelle im BIK-BITV-Prüfverbund Marc Haunschild Accessibility Consulting Sonnenhof 32 53119 Bonn Telefon: 0170 8 64 00 63 Web: https://Accessibility.Consulting https://mhis.de Email: Marc.Haunschild@Accessibility.Consulting > Am 17.10.2023 um 10:43 schrieb Marc Haunschild (Accessibility Consulting) <marc.haunschild@accessibility.consulting>: > > Hi Armony, > > This behavior is typical for most (all?) screenreaders. I was also surprised when I heard that for the first time. > > I can’t remember which, but I think one SR-browser combination does not read the hidden texts and it’s considered a bug. > > You might want to check the computation of accname if you want to know more about the spec, if you’re not familiar with it. But as far as I remember it is not about hidden text. Maybe this is way sr behave the way they do: > https://www.w3.org/TR/accname-1.1/ > -- > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > > Marc Haunschild > https://Accessibility.Consulting > >> Am 17.10.2023 um 10:36 schrieb Armony ALTINIER - Koena <armony@koena.net>: >> >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I have a question about how aria-describedby is supposed to be rendered or not by screen readers. >> >> I'm submitting this test file (see attachement) with 3 cases: >> >> text with aria-describedby is linked to non-hidden text >> text with aria-describedby is linked to text hidden with aria-hidden >> text with aria-descrivbedby is linked with text hidden with display:none. >> >> In case 1, it is normal for the text to be rendered. It seems strange to me that this also works on cases 2 and 3, whereas it works fine with NVDA. >> >> Do you have any documentation about this behavior? Is it "normal"? If so, I'm having trouble understanding the logic. If it's not normal, and there are screen reader developers among you, I'd love a little explanation of this choice (I'll go fishing for info elsewhere if need be). >> >> Many thanks in advance for any insight and documentation :) >> >> Best Regards, >> Armony >> >> -- >> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/armonyaltinier/> <https://twitter.com/armonyaltinier> Armony Altinier >> Fondatrice et Présidente | >> Téléphone : +33 (0)9 72 63 21 28 >> Site web : koena.net <https://koena.net/> >> Twitter : @koenaFR <https://twitter.com/koenaFR> >> Découvrez l'ensemble des adresses mails utiles chez Koena et les personnes associées <https://koena.net/?page_id=14196>. >> <demo-aria-describedby-EN.html>
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