- From: Shivaji Kumar <kumar140ster@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 13:45:57 -0400
- To: George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>
- Cc: "Pyatt, Elizabeth J" <ejp10@psu.edu>, w3c-wai-ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Thank you all for this wealth of information, it is really helpful. Appreciate it Shivaji On 8/19/23, George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com> wrote: > Hello, > > > > We at DAISY have been testing the use of the HTML details element. It is > currently being recommended immediately after an image that requires an > extended description. > > > > We also recommend using the aria-details attribute to point to the ID of the > details element. > > > > This works effectively with Jaws, NVDA, VoiceOver, and TalkBack. NVDA has an > add-on that adds additional functionality. Here is from the Enhanced > Annotation add-on documentation: > > Commands > > • NVDA+alt+d: moves the cursor to the element identified with aria-details. > > • NVDA+alt+shift+d: moves the cursor to the original element, for example, > an image with Further details like a long description. If NVDA+alt+d has > been pressed several times to move to related annotations, it'll be possible > to go back to each origin. > > > > Here is a link to the test EPUB titles we use, and the test for details is > in “Accessibility Tests Extended Descriptions.” You can download any of the > test books from: > > https://www.epubtest.org/test-books > > > > Here is a link to the test results. > > https://www.epubtest.org/results > > > > And from the DAISY knowledge Base on the details element: > > http://kb.daisy.org/publishing/docs/html/details.html#ex > > > > Best > > George > > > > From: Pyatt, Elizabeth J <ejp10@psu.edu> > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2023 3:29 PM > To: Shivaji Kumar <kumar140ster@gmail.com> > Cc: w3c-wai-ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> > Subject: Re: Accessibility of Details Element > > > > Our screen reader testers are able to use it. I would add a > <...tabindex="0"> attribute in the <summary> tag to make it keyboard > friendly, but it's been a good solution. I also add a low level H tag above > as well. > > > > Here's some sample code from Penn State > > Accessibility at Penn State | Image ALT Tag Tips for HTML (psu.edu) > <https://sites.psu.edu/accessibility/images/imageshtml/#extended> > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > > > On Aug 18, 2023, at 3:34 PM, Shivaji Kumar <kumar140ster@gmail.com > <mailto:kumar140ster@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > [You don't often get email from kumar140ster@gmail.com > <mailto:kumar140ster@gmail.com> . Learn why this is important at > https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] > > Dear listers, > > Is there any documentation on whether HTML "details" element is accessible? > > If possible, it would be great if you could also point to any testing > done with screen reader and browser combination. > > For the context, my dev team is considering replacing our existing > "accordion" element with "details", and is not sure if the "details" > element meets different WCAG success criteria. > > Any thoughts/hints would be much appreciated > > Shivaji > > -- > Check out my recent accessibility publication > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnfb.org%2Fimages%2Fnfb%2Fpublications%2Fjbir%2Fjbir21%2Fjbir110204.html > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnfb.org%2Fimages%2Fnfb%2Fpublications%2Fjbir%2Fjbir21%2Fjbir110204.html&data=05%7C01%7Cejp10%40psu.edu%7Cc64b39e82512453ef68b08dba02314fe%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C638279844785934208%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=1oKX8HSDmuOhEAScpcnq8c3KrijTEuFwjFmgyWGiWzo%3D&reserved=0> > &data=05%7C01%7Cejp10%40psu.edu%7Cc64b39e82512453ef68b08dba02314fe%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C638279844785934208%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=1oKX8HSDmuOhEAScpcnq8c3KrijTEuFwjFmgyWGiWzo%3D&reserved=0 > > JAWS® Certified Trainer, 2018 > > Twitter handle > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FShivKumar140 > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FShivKumar140&data=05%7C01%7Cejp10%40psu.edu%7Cc64b39e82512453ef68b08dba02314fe%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C638279844785934208%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=UQO4XfIJTMi8kzEDldRpg%2FrcTO0auehnbEuqKADiCBs%3D&reserved=0> > &data=05%7C01%7Cejp10%40psu.edu%7Cc64b39e82512453ef68b08dba02314fe%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C638279844785934208%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=UQO4XfIJTMi8kzEDldRpg%2FrcTO0auehnbEuqKADiCBs%3D&reserved=0 > > My Blog > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdigitalaccess365.wordpress.com%2F > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdigitalaccess365.wordpress.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cejp10%40psu.edu%7Cc64b39e82512453ef68b08dba02314fe%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C638279844785934208%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Uyq23fYf4GjYssuyWiKz4WFlnBTVx%2BVE5fp5pNNikeg%3D&reserved=0> > &data=05%7C01%7Cejp10%40psu.edu%7Cc64b39e82512453ef68b08dba02314fe%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C638279844785934208%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Uyq23fYf4GjYssuyWiKz4WFlnBTVx%2BVE5fp5pNNikeg%3D&reserved=0 > > Linkedin > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fpub%2Fshivaji-kumar%2F35%2Fa73%2F11a%2Fen > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fpub%2Fshivaji-kumar%2F35%2Fa73%2F11a%2Fen&data=05%7C01%7Cejp10%40psu.edu%7Cc64b39e82512453ef68b08dba02314fe%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C638279844785934208%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nd5DEeRaLhaY%2FZ1M6wRII5I57%2F4Qar5XMhCI3n26MR0%3D&reserved=0> > &data=05%7C01%7Cejp10%40psu.edu%7Cc64b39e82512453ef68b08dba02314fe%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C638279844785934208%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nd5DEeRaLhaY%2FZ1M6wRII5I57%2F4Qar5XMhCI3n26MR0%3D&reserved=0 > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Elizabeth J. 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