- From: George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>
- Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 09:01:18 -0600
- To: "'Pyatt, Elizabeth J'" <ejp10@psu.edu>, "'Shivaji Kumar'" <kumar140ster@gmail.com>
- Cc: "'w3c-wai-ig'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
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Hello, We at DAISY have been testing the use of the HTML details element. It is currently being recommended immediately after an image that requires an extended description. We also recommend using the aria-details attribute to point to the ID of the details element. This works effectively with Jaws, NVDA, VoiceOver, and TalkBack. NVDA has an add-on that adds additional functionality. Here is from the Enhanced Annotation add-on documentation: Commands • NVDA+alt+d: moves the cursor to the element identified with aria-details. • NVDA+alt+shift+d: moves the cursor to the original element, for example, an image with Further details like a long description. If NVDA+alt+d has been pressed several times to move to related annotations, it'll be possible to go back to each origin. Here is a link to the test EPUB titles we use, and the test for details is in “Accessibility Tests Extended Descriptions.” You can download any of the test books from: https://www.epubtest.org/test-books Here is a link to the test results. https://www.epubtest.org/results And from the DAISY knowledge Base on the details element: http://kb.daisy.org/publishing/docs/html/details.html#ex Best George From: Pyatt, Elizabeth J <ejp10@psu.edu> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2023 3:29 PM To: Shivaji Kumar <kumar140ster@gmail.com> Cc: w3c-wai-ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Subject: Re: Accessibility of Details Element Our screen reader testers are able to use it. I would add a <...tabindex="0"> attribute in the <summary> tag to make it keyboard friendly, but it's been a good solution. I also add a low level H tag above as well. Here's some sample code from Penn State Accessibility at Penn State | Image ALT Tag Tips for HTML (psu.edu) <https://sites.psu.edu/accessibility/images/imageshtml/#extended> Elizabeth On Aug 18, 2023, at 3:34 PM, Shivaji Kumar <kumar140ster@gmail.com <mailto:kumar140ster@gmail.com> > wrote: [You don't often get email from kumar140ster@gmail.com <mailto:kumar140ster@gmail.com> . Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] Dear listers, Is there any documentation on whether HTML "details" element is accessible? If possible, it would be great if you could also point to any testing done with screen reader and browser combination. For the context, my dev team is considering replacing our existing "accordion" element with "details", and is not sure if the "details" element meets different WCAG success criteria. 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