Re: Heading inside Caption - all good?

Thanks for confirming that Jan.

A shame about that duplicated announcement you noted. On balance, perhaps this is not a valuable technique; I'll go and compare the alternatives.

Cheers, Alan

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From: Jan Hellbusch <jan@hellbusch.de>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 8:05 AM
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Subject: RE: Heading inside Caption - all good?

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Yupp, the text is read as a caption, not a heading.

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> From: Bristow, Alan <Alan.Bristow@elections.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 1:36 PM
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> Subject: Re: Heading inside Caption - all good?
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> Hi Jan,
>
> Thanks for this detail.
>
> Please might I ask, regarding:
>
> > * When jumping to the Table with T the heading is ignored.
>
> is the text within the heading/caption read out successfully in this scenario (just
> not announced as a heading)?
>
> Thanks for your comment.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
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> > Thanks, yes it's part of HTML5 now (Content model > Flow content)
> > https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/tables.html#the-caption-element
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It's just not something I've seen, even though I have seen the same
> > thing done with LEGEND. I just seems to make good sense to me.
>
> Quick check with JAWS 2021 and Chrome:
> * With the <h4> inside the <caption> and reading line by line I first get the
> table caption  and then the heading (with identical text) (→ redundant).
> * When jumping to the Table with T the heading is ignored.
>
> It seems to me that using two headings (in their general meaning) is not
> necessary. A heading could be used before the table, if the table represents aa
> section.
>
> Jan
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