Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: { Creative agencies } experience with anyone listed?

Skye,

I certainly appreciate your very up to date WCAG rules - but not every
company has the time to do everything when they are tasked with much larger
projects that meet every requirement of WCAG 2.1AA - I have yet to find a
single site even with Deque and other vendors that are perfect on every
single page. Trying to state that because you found something wrong (your
findings are certainly valid) means that the company is not at all
competent is a horrible thought process. I think as quickly as new
rules and changes come about in WCAG 2.2 and soon 3.0 you may find that
your sales tools are out of date and your client's projects are your
priority - and in that time you too may fail very visible rules on your
sales sites.

Accessibility for a business is a process - and just like those other
companies we too will adapt in batches - as I have been doing long prior to
WCAG's commonplace existence, doing everything we can to make sites
accessible first just based on text-based browsers, then on section 508,
and now on WCAG.

Your heart is in the right place - but you need to also remember that small
businesses cannot do everything in a short timeframe. I worked on a project
where the agency had 90 days to comply with a whole bunch of fixes on about
50 websites, we had 13 great programmers (plus a bunch of internal and
external auditors) working 60 to 70 hours a week for those 90 days and just
barely completed in time, having to have through that process created a new
site template, train 4 new contractors that had little WCAG experience and
work with the auditors to literally find new ways to comply with seemingly
impossible rules - that ultimately required bug filings with various
vendors including JAWS and Dragon, among others.

Personally, I plan on starting my next wave of changes in a few weeks and
if you're up for it maybe I could engage your auditing assistance
(depending on your rates).

Thank you!!!!

*Daniel Horning*
518-333-5100


On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 11:23 PM Skye <Starry_sky@live.com> wrote:

> I also know someone looking for an accessibility web expert so I took a
> quick look at Dan's recommendation's website homepage.  There are some
> font color choices that do not meet minimum color contrast and the white
> background can be challenging people with Dyslexia, light sensitivity, and
> more.  The text and call to action options are not (cognitively)
> descriptive and the layout does not account for mobile or a "zoomed in"
> view.  Missing alt text, using headings for visual text format, displaying
> text on top of a (busy) image, etc. indicates a lack of accessibility
> awareness.
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> I also took a glimpse at Karly's recommendation's website homepage.  There
> are also color challenges with min color contrast and white backgrounds.  There
> are a few other questionable decisions so not sure what they sort of
> accessibility guidance they are providing but hoping it is better than what
> their website reflect.
>
> My ten second unofficial evaluation of each website only picked out some
> of the more obvious a11y concerns.  I believe that any company that
> claims accessibility services should have an accessible website to
> represent their abilities. But maybe that's just me...
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> *From:* Cunningham, Karly [mailto:KCunningham1@northwell.edu
> <KCunningham1@northwell.edu>]
> *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2021, 3:26 PM
> *To:* Dan Horning; caroline
> *Cc:* w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: { Creative agencies } experience with anyone
> listed?
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> Hi Dan,
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> One company I have worked with regularly is
> https://www.phase2technology.com/
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> We have done a TON of design work with them, and as a Healthcare company
> accessibility is a top priority for us.  In the past we have also had them
> do accessibility reviews of our products as well as trainings for our staff
> on higher levels (building empathy) and more detailed levels
> (designing/developing for accessibility).
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> I highly recommend them, they are excellent partners.
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> Thanks,
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>
> *Karly Cunningham*
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> Director, User Experience
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> Digital Patient Experience Transformation
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> 2 Huntington Quadrangle
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> Melville, NY 11747
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> Office: (934) 420-6142
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> Mobile: (516) 510-3463
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> Email: kcunningham1@northwell.edu <ksorrenti1@northwell.edu>
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> *Northwell Health*
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> Visit us at Northwell.edu <http://northwell.edu/>
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> *“People ignore design that ignores people.” — Frank Chimero*
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> *From: *Dan Horning <dsoundmn@gmail.com> <dsoundmn@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Friday, March 26, 2021 at 12:50 PM
> *To: *caroline <woodward.caroline@gmail.com> <woodward.caroline@gmail.com>
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> Hi Caroline,
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> My company does - americandigitalservices.com
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/americandigitalservices.com__;!!BWcElQ!iNC-5-pC4NmrxyKZ0Ckq-YF3Pe2czm6RaIwtPYIfKqD5-Gf5yfIddpnb0G3okwptpv6St8g3$>
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> and I've only found a few others in my region.
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> *Daniel Horning*
> 518-333-5100
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> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 5:15 PM caroline <woodward.caroline@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Hey there,
>
> I was asked if I knew of any creative design agencies that have
> accessibility baked into their process.
>
> I knew of 2 but for the life of me cannot recall the company names.
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> I'm somewhat familiar with
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> https://www.dbswebsite.com
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.dbswebsite.com__;!!BWcElQ!iNC-5-pC4NmrxyKZ0Ckq-YF3Pe2czm6RaIwtPYIfKqD5-Gf5yfIddpnb0G3okwptppCr7QV7$>
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> And a search pulled up
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> https://www.moreycreative.con
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.moreycreative.con__;!!BWcElQ!iNC-5-pC4NmrxyKZ0Ckq-YF3Pe2czm6RaIwtPYIfKqD5-Gf5yfIddpnb0G3okwptphpZVPqe$>
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> And another murmurcreative.com
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/murmurcreative.com__;!!BWcElQ!iNC-5-pC4NmrxyKZ0Ckq-YF3Pe2czm6RaIwtPYIfKqD5-Gf5yfIddpnb0G3okwptpq77ALUw$>
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> I'm not sure if asking in this thread is a bad thing but I wondered if
> anyone has worked with these agencies or knows of a design agency with a
> strong level of experience. The person that me is really committed to
> having an accessible site for all her clients because she is govt funded.
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> Appreciate any input.
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