Re: accessibility toolbar

>
> I actually regret mentioning that I'm trying to get our teams to create
> one for our site because this tool is not like what im envisioning and my
> point was that there is a danger to designers thinking that such a tool
> will free them from having to include features that need and should be
> there in the first place. 😊
>


The scope of what I'm asking the team to create is small and manageable.  A
> switch to turn off animation and control for text size, contrast. That's
> it. Again not from a third party but created by the very developers who
> understand how things are knitted together. Nothing over the top. I hope
> that puts some minds at ease. 😁
>



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>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 12:30 PM caroline <woodward.caroline@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve i agree with you. I should clarify that I am not twisting arms for
>>> the use of a third-party tool. Im asking for our teams to create some
>>> switches of our own while stressing that it doesn't free us from ensuring
>>> that accessibility is baked in. 😁 I have so many reservations around third
>>> party tools and haven't seen any successfully execute to meet our needs.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 20, 2020, 3:04 PM Steve Green <
>>> steve.green@testpartners.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You need to be careful when making broad statements to the effect that
>>>> the tool does not help achieve WCAG conformance (I appreciate that’s not
>>>> quite what you were saying). For instance, WCAG SC 2.4.7 says “Any keyboard
>>>> operable user interface has a mode of operation where the keyboard focus
>>>> indicator is visible.” If the website does not have a focus indicator but
>>>> the toolbar has a feature that adds one, then the success criterion is met.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In principle, the same applies to other success criteria, although this
>>>> is dependent on the tool itself and its method identification and
>>>> invocation being accessible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* caroline <woodward.caroline@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* 20 May 2020 19:47
>>>> *To:* Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>
>>>> *Cc:* w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: accessibility toolbar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if they felt that having the toolbar would free them from
>>>> having things like contrast baked in?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've been trying to twist the arms of folks to do this and some thought
>>>> it meant they would be liberated from thinking about wcag and we're
>>>> disappointed when I said no.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On another note that free shipping message sliding by at the top, has
>>>> the odd effect of making me feel queasy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 20, 2020, 2:19 PM Steve Green <
>>>> steve.green@testpartners.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Also, the colour contrast of the focus indication in the toolbar
>>>> violates SC 1.4.11.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are actually some nice tools in there, like the screen ruler and
>>>> screen mask, but some don’t always work properly, such as the controls for
>>>> changing the text and background colours.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We and most of the rest of the accessibility community are generally
>>>> opposed to tools like this, but at least it’s cheap compared with most
>>>> others, so it’s not taking away much budget that could be better spent on
>>>> other things.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve Green
>>>>
>>>> Managing Director
>>>>
>>>> Test Partners Ltd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Annie Heckel <annieh@onlineada.com>
>>>> *Sent:* 20 May 2020 19:01
>>>> *To:* w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: accessibility toolbar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Even without really investigating the toolbar much, I had to laugh when
>>>> simply opening it caused the page to create a failure of WCAG 1.4.10:
>>>> Reflow.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Annie H.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:40 AM Char Easter <ceaster@seattletimes.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts on this accessibility toolbar? It appears on the site,
>>>> https://farberwarecookware.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The tool is authored by,
>>>> https://hikeorders.com/accessibility/main-accessibility-features/#accessibility-tools
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Char Easter*
>>>>
>>>> UX Designer at The Seattle Times
>>>>
>>>> p: 206.464.2945
>>>>
>>>> e: ceaster@seattletimes.com
>>>>
>>>> m: 206.779.2427
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Annie Heckel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lead Accessibility Auditor
>>>>
>>>> Online ADA <https://onlineada.com/>
>>>>
>>>>