Re: [External Sender] <ol start="3"> Is this accessible?

Ugh, you mean like:

<ol>
     <li>Something</li>
     <div>An advertisement</div>
     <li>Something else</li>
</ol>

That's a violation of WCAG 2.1 SC 4.1.1 Parsing. The ol contains a
non-supported child (the div). Before any accessibility is looked at, a
page must be able to pass an HTML linter with no errors. This would throw a
parent/child error.

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 1:25 PM Marc Haunschild <
haunschild@mhis.onmicrosoft.de> wrote:

> Then its a matter of presentation (CSS) not semantics (HTML).
>
> Respect the separation of concerns principle and things will become much
> easier.
>
> Flex box offers a easy way to make space between two elements when using
> margin: auto for example - in this gap you can place your add - although I
> still might not understand all aspects of your particular component, I
> think I would use something like this
>
> <ul>
>   <li>{text}</li>
>   <li>{text}</li>
>   <li>{text}</li>
>   <li>{advertisement}</li>
> </ul>
>
> With order you can rearrange the items and by putting the ad at the end
> you don’t interrupt the logical order
>
> In a future redesign you won't need to touch the HTML - all changes can be
> made in the CSS (or SASS/LESS if you prefer to work with a preprocessor)
>
> Marc
>
> On 19. Nov 2019, at 18:58, Jeana Clark <jclark@veritashealth.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Patrick - Thanks for your comment.
>
> The problem is we want to put an ad in the middle of a list - but not make
> it a list item. So sometimes if it’s a numbered list, we will close the
> list, insert the ad, and restart the list (hence start=“3” on the ol)
>
>
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> On Nov 19, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>
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> On 19/11/2019 17:12, Jeana Clark wrote:
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> Sometimes the lists were used as a design solution… writers wanted to make
> the content more ’scannable’, and they really aren’t list items. They’re
> just bulleted, indented paragraphs — those I can deal with with redesign.
> But sometimes they are ‘lists’ as like, here are 5 treatments for your
> lower back pain.. but each ‘list item’ is a thorough multi-paragraphed
> description of the treatment, within a list item.
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> Even in those cases, you should be able to just stick them all in an
> <li>...</li> without the need for breaking up a list and starting it at a
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