- From: Glenda Sims <glenda.sims@deque.com>
- Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 08:54:36 -0600
- To: accessys@smart.net
- Cc: Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>, Mark Weiler <mweiler@alumni.sfu.ca>, David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAH2ngESBWpNqOU4C7jY=5gaKtsu89Uxf_y_SacZvJZbj56DsGQ@mail.gmail.com>
Oh...I realized one of my sentences in my "soapbox" is inaccurate. So...in your heads...replace this sentence: "ADA requirements are not based on statistics. It only takes one user with a disability to result in an ADA compliant." with this one: "An organizations risk of receiving a valid ADA complaint is not based on the number of their current customers with a disability. It only takes one user (customer, potential customer, employee, applicant) with a disability to result in a valid ADA compliant." Thanks to Phill for gently reminding me that there are a ton of statistics (data) that went in to the crafting of the requirements. Peace out, G glenda sims | team a11y lead | deque.com | 512.963.3773 *web for everyone. web on everything.* - w3 goals [image: IAAP International Association of Accessibility Professionals: Certified Professional in Accessibility Core Competencies (CPACC)] <http://www.accessibilityassociation.org/certification> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:49 PM, <accessys@smart.net> wrote: > > then remember that 70% of people with serious disabilities live below the > poverty level which means many people are using older or outdated tech. > > Bob > > > > On Thu, 25 Jan 2018, Phill Jenkins wrote: > > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 21:38:31 -0600 >> From: Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com> >> To: Mark Weiler <mweiler@alumni.sfu.ca> >> Cc: David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>, >> "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> >> Subject: Re: Assistive Technology Detection >> Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 03:39:14 +0000 >> Resent-From: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org >> >> >> | how can a site or app know >> | what web content technologies to serve up >> | that are accessibly supported >> | without knowing the user agents and AT the user is using? >> >> My understanding is that for a site or app to claim conformance, the >> claimant has to know or the claim has to state which accessibility >> supported technologies were relied upon in the conformance testing, not in >> what the user is using after the conformance testing is done. Of course >> what users actually use significantly influences what are the definitive >> list of accessibility supported technologies. There is no requirement to >> "serve up that technology" to claim conformance. >> >> For example, if the operating system and browser platform support high >> contrast technology, the claim can be made that the site or app conforms >> (or still conforms) with all the WCAG Success Criteria when the user is >> relying on those accessibility supported features in the operating system >> and browser platform. The site or app conformance would fail if the 1.3.1 >> Info and relationship success criteria fails because some labels or >> headings "disappeared" when turning on the high contrast accessibility >> features supported in the OS & Browser. >> ___________ >> Regards, >> Phill Jenkins >> pjenkins@us.ibm.com >> Senior Engineer & Accessibility Executive >> IBM Research Accessibility >> linkedin.com/in/philljenkins/ >> >> >> >> From: Mark Weiler <mweiler@alumni.sfu.ca> >> To: David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" >> <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> >> Date: 01/25/2018 06:52 PM >> Subject: Re: Assistive Technology Detection >> >> >> >> Related to AT detection is how can a site or app know what web content >> technologies to serve up that are accessibly supported without knowing the >> user agents and AT the user is using? >> >> Accessibility supported is a requirement for conformance. And research >> findings show differences in how browsers and ATs are supporting web >> content technologies. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 25, 2018 7:08 PM, David Woolley >> <forums@david-woolley.me.uk> wrote: >> >> >> The dangers I see are: >> >> 1) this will reinforce the idea that the only disabled people are those >> that use JAWs. >> >> 2) it will probably have a similar effect to early mobile web sites, >> which tended to be cleaner, and easier to use that the main web site. >> That may mean that the main web site gets more difficult to use, and you >> won't be able to do the equivalent of using wap instead of www. >> >> On 25/01/18 19:18, accessys@smart.net wrote: >> >>> >>> counter to concept of accessibility, one should not need to identify >>> and personally I would be ,opposed to it. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
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