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RE: Auto focus movement with dynamic updates

From: David Best <davebest@cogeco.ca>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 09:58:38 -0400
To: "'Matt King'" <a11ythinker@gmail.com>, "'Sean Murphy \(seanmmur\)'" <seanmmur@cisco.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Cc: "Raven Avalon" <raven.avalon@rangle.io>
Message-ID: <004101d29e5d$69dcc970$3d965c50$@cogeco.ca>
I agree with Sean's understanding. However, according to the example given, if
pressing Enter key on a Link element dynamically updates only the Main content
and focus is not moved from the Link element, then should an aria-alert not be
required to notify the user of the screen update?

 

From: Matt King [mailto:a11ythinker@gmail.com] 
Sent: March 16, 2017 04:35 AM
To: 'Sean Murphy (seanmmur)'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: Auto focus movement with dynamic updates

 

Yes.

 

From: Sean Murphy (seanmmur) [mailto:seanmmur@cisco.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 9:02 PM
To: Matt King <a11ythinker@gmail.com>; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: Auto focus movement with dynamic updates 

 

Matt,

 

In other words, there is no hard and fast rule. It depends on the goal and if
the design makes sense. In my situation, I will refer to the dev not to use
automatic focus movement as it doesn't make sense.

 

 

Sean Murphy

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From: Matt King [mailto:a11ythinker@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2017 2:22 PM
To: Sean Murphy (seanmmur) <seanmmur@cisco.com>; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: Auto focus movement with dynamic updates 

 

Sean,

 

I strongly believe this should be a design decision. There are many factors that
could play into what is optimal. For composite widgets that employ ARIA, the
authoring practices task force is working on addressing these factors for
various design patterns. None of this is normative, and that is intentional.

 

WCAG should be careful not to be too specific with respect to focus movement in
dynamic pages. Instead, it should refer designers and developers to guidance,
like the ARIA Authoring Practices, that explains factors to consider when
designing a focus sequence.

 

Matt King

 

From: Sean Murphy (seanmmur) [mailto:seanmmur@cisco.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:45 PM
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Auto focus movement with dynamic updates 

 

All,

 

I have reviewed 2.4.3, 3.2.2 and 3.2.5 and need verification for web sites that
use dynamic content after an action has been initiated on an input element like
a link, button, treeivew node, tab strip, etc. After the page has dynamically
updated, should the focus move? This is not related to automatic focus movement
within a form which is covered by 2.4.3. The actions are:

1.       User moves keyboard focus on to an element. Such as a tree view
sub-node or a link.

2.       They press enter to activate the item.

3.       The same page dynamically updates showing new content. The main
navigation elements still exist.

4.       The focus moves to the first element on the new content shown.

My feeling the above is incorrect and if so, not sure which WCAG SC would apply.
Comments?

 

 

Sean 
Received on Thursday, 16 March 2017 13:59:12 UTC

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