Re: Videos - do we need both captions and transcripts?

Hi Janina,

What you said about the use of transcripts for speed reading makes sense and I don’t think I need to see the meeting minutes.

Thanks for a quick response and I appreciate your advice.

Best,
Nimisha

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 3:33 PM
To: Nimisha Joshi <nimisha.joshi@northwestern.edu>
Cc: "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Videos - do we need both captions and transcripts?

In order to support as many users as possible, yes.

You might also note that transcripts are sometimes referenced by persons
without disabilities who want to speed read through content--or to skim
the content. This use case came up during our discussions in the HTML
Working Group prior to the release of HTML 5.0. Let me know if you need
a reference to those minutes, and I'll dig them up for you. This use
case isn't noted in the Media Accessibility User Requirements (MAUR)
note simply because it's not an accessibility use case in the
traditional sense.

Janina

Nimisha Joshi writes:
Going by this, we DO need transcripts for all audio video content, right?
Thanks,
Nimisha
From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>>
Date: Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 2:41 PM
To: Nimisha Joshi <nimisha.joshi@northwestern.edu<mailto:nimisha.joshi@northwestern.edu>>
Cc: "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: Videos - do we need both captions and transcripts?
It's generally expected that people requiring captions aren't hearing
audio content, but are seing visual content.
Therefore, transcript is specified to support those who neither see nor
hear:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w3.org_TR_media-2Daccessibility-2Dreqs_-23transcripts&d=CwIBAw&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=8bgih609kFGNd3KTkZvS4SD8-_hY6QELODIGc63wIuE&m=uPDIur_EoYK7Iw8mT-FYh7DSzJhX4R9KHvIkQZdqkho&s=wBzST77c7L3EZGQmvUrI3IPpNEDHSEHVHBWou1ygaZc&e=

Nimisha Joshi writes:
Hello All,
I have a super elementary question, what is the difference between prerecorded and synchronized video?  From what I can gather, it seems there is a level of interaction with synchronized video, like online tutorials or eLearning. Am I close?
Transcript are for prerecorded (according to this Section 508 checklist item 2.2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.hhs.gov_web_section-2D508_making-2Dfiles-2Daccessible_checklist_html_index.html-3Flanguage-3Des&d=CwIBAw&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=8bgih609kFGNd3KTkZvS4SD8-_hY6QELODIGc63wIuE&m=uPDIur_EoYK7Iw8mT-FYh7DSzJhX4R9KHvIkQZdqkho&s=c8imw3CZmw7WrZWTSwzLD855OszQZMMg0s5Q7PGxQNw&e=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.hhs.gov_web_section-2D508_making-2Dfiles-2Daccessible_checklist_html_index.html-3Flanguage-3Des&d=CwIBAw&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=8bgih609kFGNd3KTkZvS4SD8-_hY6QELODIGc63wIuE&m=uPDIur_EoYK7Iw8mT-FYh7DSzJhX4R9KHvIkQZdqkho&s=c8imw3CZmw7WrZWTSwzLD855OszQZMMg0s5Q7PGxQNw&e=%3e>) and captions are for synchronized (checklist item 2.3).
If this is irrelevant and you advise using captions for all video content (except for a silent movie, of course) or if we need both captions and transcripts?
Thank you again for all your advice.
Thanks,
NJ
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