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Re: Using ARIA role=heading without aria-level to improve user experience

From: Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:03:56 -0400
Message-ID: <CAJi9CqoyVysawkERzLfDYud9AfLT8+zJT2vdOTXAtAtiQWeGsg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com>
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Hi Bryan,
As per the specs, the user agents / At may  determine and expose the
level when not given explicitly.
In this case specifically NVDA and VO merely convey that this is a
heading. That's better than a wrong level being conveyed that confuses
the user. When merely exposed as a heading, the user can safely assume
all such headings are at the same level ... as conveyed visually too.

Sailesh


 .  8/14/14, Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com> wrote:
> Thanks, I understand, what I was referring to though was the following from
> the article:
>
> "The subsection titles appear the same visually for both ARIA1 and ARIA2,
> yet they are different for screen reader users. Just for demonstration, the
> titles under ARIA2 are marked up with ARIA role=”heading”. Even without an
> aria-level these headings help screen reader users to discover content and
> navigate efficiently. JAWS ascribes a heading level to these too
> (incorrectly it appears in this case), while NVDA and VoiceOver (in iOS)
> merely expose them as headings. (Freedom Scientific has been alerted of
> this)."
>
> From this, it sounds like you are saying that there should be no implicit
> level?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sailesh Panchang [mailto:sailesh.panchang@deque.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:27 AM
> To: Bryan Garaventa
> Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Using ARIA role=heading without aria-level to improve user
> experience
>
> Hello Bryan,
> Please see ARIA12 including example #1 and its wording
> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/ARIA12.html
> And the code validates successfully too.
> The specs for aria-level say:
> If the DOM ancestry accurately represents the level, the user agent can
> calculate the level of an item from the document structure. This attribute
> can be used to provide an explicit indication of the level when that is not
> possible to calculate from the document structure or the aria-owns ...
>
> So aria-level is not mandatory when role=heading is used.
> As noted in the explanation for the illustration (on
> http://www.deque.com/blog/accessible-html-heading-markup/), even without
> aria-level the text is exposed explicitly as a heading to SR users. Sure it
> will help users if it is more explicit.
> And the point of the article is that in some situations one can pass SC
> 1.3.1 and SC 2.4.10 without explicit heading markup. I have seen many pages
> (privacy / security terms or terms to be agreed to before continuing sign
> up, etc.) where there are text labels that serve as headings but are not
> styled distinctively. The UI designers / content authors refuse to change
> appearance of these "headings" or are unable to mark them up as h<n> and
> style them.
> Regards,
> Sailesh
>
>
> On 8/13/14, Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com> wrote:
>> Is a heading without a level really a valid heading though?
>>
>> For instance, <h> doesn't exist </h>
>>
>> There would be no way to convey structural nesting.
>>
>> I think it would be a mistake to allow this using ARIA role='heading'.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sailesh Panchang [mailto:sailesh.panchang@deque.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 6:22 AM
>> To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
>> Subject: Using ARIA role=heading without aria-level to improve user
>> experience
>>
>> FYI "Accessible HTML Heading Markup"
>> http://www.deque.com/blog/accessible-html-heading-markup/
>> Thanks,
>> Sailesh Panchang
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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