- From: Adam Cooper <cooperad@bigpond.com>
- Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 12:01:25 +1100
- To: "'Felix Miata'" <mrmazda@earthlink.net>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Hi Felix, Thanks for your response. I unreservedly apologise in advance if this has been covered in this forum previously or is treated elsewhere, and for what is no doubt the result of my naivety. Yes, I agree - the flexibility of web technologies and using relative sizing for fonts is a critical factor in improving accessibility. But the reason I ask is that for success criteria 1.4.3 and 1.4.6, there are requirements for colour contrast at thresholds of 18pt normal and 14pt bold. How are these font sizes determined onscreen, especially when text sizing sufficient techniques for 1.4.4 stipulate relative units for font sizes? So, for example, a user is viewing a page in IE8 at 1024 x 768 on a 19" LCD with the default UA style sheet font size of 12pt, but the web page includes a CSS specification of 0.8em and no bold for paragraph text. How is it possible to determine whether the colour contrast ratio meets the success criteria when it is not possible to determine the onscreen font size in points? Am I to assume that the font size is 0.8 x 12 or 9.6 points? With regards to the utility and possibility of comparing onscreen font sizes with print, I have been asked by clients a number of times how to ensure that font sizes are 'the right' size for people with low-vision to which the only thing I can say is 'use relative sizes and don't specify font sizes below 1em or 100% so that the user can change as per their desire' ... which is usually greeted with a blank look and some reference to a document from a vision-loss organisation that says something like 18pt is recommended for people with low-vision. Or am I missing something? Cheers, Adam -----Original Message----- From: Felix Miata [mailto:mrmazda@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:01 AM To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Re: onscreen font sizes On 2012/03/04 10:22 (GMT+1100) Adam Cooper composed: > I am seeking a tool for calculating on screen font sizes that takes > viewport size, resolution, monitor pitch, browser defaults, and > specified font sizes etc. into consideration ... something whereby I > can enter these variables, crank the handle, and come up with a result > that provides a useful comparison to printed font sizes. Does anyone know of this holy grail? REM & EM http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/css2em.htm http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-values/#font-relative-lengths The magic is that the user is in position to customize his personal computing device if and when he finds the base font size in his browser is inappropriate. No designer is in position to do better, no matter how many things he might fetch from the DOM. The designer who sticks to sizing only contextually, leaving the base size at the user's specification, is doing the best job for accessibility. The relationship to print isn't necessarily useful. A major advantage of the web is the absence of necessity to fit content to a known size of output medium. Browsers inherently adapt to the wide variation of available viewport space in users' agents. Web user space adapts to user needs in ways no other medium can compare to. Web designer use of CSS typically limits that adaptability, reducing accessibility as a result. IOW, if you resist the temptation to try to make the web look like cookie-cut magazine pages, you maximize accessibility, and user experience. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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