- From: Mark D. Urban <docurban@nc.rr.com>
- Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:26:45 -0500
- To: "'Bryce Fields'" <bryce.fields@gmail.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Part of the problem was that the "Bobby approved" icon seemed to indicate that someone had certified the site ... rather than Cynthia's more accurate "Cynthia tested" icon, which just means it has been tested by the Cynthia says tool. Regards, -Mark D. Urban 919-395-8513 (cell) Chair, North Carolina Governor's Advocacy Council for Persons with Disabilities Keep up with the latest in worldwide accessibility at (http://www.icdri.org/) -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Bryce Fields Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:09 AM To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Re: Where's Bobby? Are we left with Cynthia? On 1/27/06, Martin Stehle <pewtah@snafu.de> wrote: > > So often I have been in to see a new client and all they are concerned > > about is making sure they their site adheres to the Bobby 'standard'. > > When you strat to talk to them about it is obvious that they have never > > heard of the W3C or WCAG. > > Of course we told our clients the limits of every automatic check. We > additionally included icons of companies testing websites with > disabled users manually. Some years ago Bobby was popular enough to > advertise with it. So the deal was: We built an accessible, > WCAG-proofed site, by the way it passed the Bobby and other tests. The > client was fine, the user was fine, we was fine, mission accomplished. The problem arises though when clients start to equate the Bobby icon (or any other icon) w/ accessiblity. Most clients, and sadly many professional web developers I've interacted with, tend to glaze over when you bring up little things like the fact that an automated system can only check so much. I've seen many a site proudly display a Bobby icon declaring their Priority III conformance to the world, only to be dismayed to discover that something as simple as not being able to navigate the site by a keyboard (or some other item untestable by an automated system) bring their illusions of accessibility crashing back down to earth. In my opinion, a well-planned site, w/ a link to an informative accessibility statement is far more useful and important than any icon could ever be. We've started to think of accessibility in binary terms, either you have it or you don't. In truth, accessibility is a continuum. On one end is "no one can use your site regardless of their user agent of choice", and on the other is "everyone can use your site regardless of their user agent of choice". And your site is most likely somewhere in the middle. There's always something more you can be doing to move a site closer to the "everybody gets in" side. -- Bryce Fields www.royalrodent.com "Do or do not! There is no try!" -- Yoda
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