- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@sidar.org>
- Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 01:25:25 +0100
- To: Kurt_Mattes@bankone.com, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Kurt is right that testing this stuff costs money. Training development staff so they can do it themselves, while a money saver in the long term (because they develop stuff with far fewer and less serious errors), also costs money. My one experience with a multinational, multi-faceted financial institution suggested that this cost might be as much as several tens of thousands for a handful of western european languages, if you can get the relevant developers into one place cheaply - things like having multilingual staff can make a huge difference to the price. I think the suggestion that 100 pages should be tested is probably about right - some of that is tool testing, and looking at how real staff actually put content on the web, which is crucial in dealing with accessibility in any large organisation. For the case I was dealing with (dozens of languages) if it had been followed through worldwide I would have expected something like a hundred thousand Euros needed to be spent for a reasonable result - mostly on the costs of having existing staff learning things. On the other hand, we are talking about a massive piece of infrastructure costing millions. In the scope of such a project, this is not a lot of money (compare it, for example, with the costs of retrofitting a few hundred offices worldwide, providing each with ramps and wheelchair access throughout, a braille printer and occasional use of a sign language interpreter). In can also be largely offset - the company in question has a legal obligation to provide some kind of training or other to a lot of its staff, and this expenditure would qualify in meeting that target. It is also the case that attitude is important. The actual results achieved in the pilot project were the result of spending a very small amount of money (several thousand) and a few key people taking an interest. I expect this to be of more long term value than a large investment (although the results at this stage are not nearly as good as one would expect from a serious commitment across the company). I agree that the cost tends to stop many from taking it on, but I think in large part this is based on ignorance or "FUD" as much as on a real analysis of costs and benefits. On the other hand, there is still a dearth of information available to the public that provides real-world analyses of cost and benefit as examples, so decision makers still don't have a lot to go on. So currently, decisions to undertake the work also tend to be leaps of faith, or the result of real commitment to accessibility (for whatever reason). If anyone has real figures that they can publish, providing detailed examples of cost, benefit, and what contributed to each of these, I would love to know about them. cheers Chaals On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:49:12 -0500, <Kurt_Mattes@bankone.com> wrote: > Misstating the cost involved in testing for accessibility does little to > promote the cause. It is a real cost, a significant cost, a cost I > have found tends to stop many before they even begin to attempt making > their > site accessible. Leading readers of this list to believe otherwise > undermines > credibility. -- Charles McCathieNevile - Vice Presidente - Fundacion Sidar charles@sidar.org http://www.sidar.org (chaals is available for consulting at the moment)
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