- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@sidar.org>
- Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 01:25:25 +0100
- To: Kurt_Mattes@bankone.com, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Kurt is right that testing this stuff costs money. Training development
staff so they can do it themselves, while a money saver in the long term
(because they develop stuff with far fewer and less serious errors), also
costs money.
My one experience with a multinational, multi-faceted financial
institution suggested that this cost might be as much as several tens of
thousands for a handful of western european languages, if you can get the
relevant developers into one place cheaply - things like having
multilingual staff can make a huge difference to the price.
I think the suggestion that 100 pages should be tested is probably about
right - some of that is tool testing, and looking at how real staff
actually put content on the web, which is crucial in dealing with
accessibility in any large organisation.
For the case I was dealing with (dozens of languages) if it had been
followed through worldwide I would have expected something like a hundred
thousand Euros needed to be spent for a reasonable result - mostly on the
costs of having existing staff learning things.
On the other hand, we are talking about a massive piece of infrastructure
costing millions. In the scope of such a project, this is not a lot of
money (compare it, for example, with the costs of retrofitting a few
hundred offices worldwide, providing each with ramps and wheelchair access
throughout, a braille printer and occasional use of a sign language
interpreter). In can also be largely offset - the company in question has
a legal obligation to provide some kind of training or other to a lot of
its staff, and this expenditure would qualify in meeting that target.
It is also the case that attitude is important. The actual results
achieved in the pilot project were the result of spending a very small
amount of money (several thousand) and a few key people taking an
interest. I expect this to be of more long term value than a large
investment (although the results at this stage are not nearly as good as
one would expect from a serious commitment across the company).
I agree that the cost tends to stop many from taking it on, but I think in
large part this is based on ignorance or "FUD" as much as on a real
analysis of costs and benefits. On the other hand, there is still a dearth
of information available to the public that provides real-world analyses
of cost and benefit as examples, so decision makers still don't have a lot
to go on. So currently, decisions to undertake the work also tend to be
leaps of faith, or the result of real commitment to accessibility (for
whatever reason).
If anyone has real figures that they can publish, providing detailed
examples of cost, benefit, and what contributed to each of these, I would
love to know about them.
cheers
Chaals
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:49:12 -0500, <Kurt_Mattes@bankone.com> wrote:
> Misstating the cost involved in testing for accessibility does little to
> promote the cause. It is a real cost, a significant cost, a cost I
> have found tends to stop many before they even begin to attempt making
> their
> site accessible. Leading readers of this list to believe otherwise
> undermines
> credibility.
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Charles McCathieNevile - Vice Presidente - Fundacion Sidar
charles@sidar.org http://www.sidar.org
(chaals is available for consulting at the moment)
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