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RE: Accessibility of "CHM" format resources

From: Cheryl D. Wise <cdwise@wiserways.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:04:32 -0500
To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
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Considering how lazy I am which makes me disinclined to 'hack' with
stylesheets if CSS were all that difficult I wouldn't be using it. Yet, I
haven't created a website in the last 3 years that didn't use CSS.
Occasionally, I'll use table but for tabular data or calendars. Last time I
voluntarily used a table for layout on a site I was creating was I think
about two years ago.

Yes, as Tina and other have pointed out there are inconsistencies (and I
really wish Microsoft, the Mozilla folks, Apple and Opera would all agree on
what font size is 'medium' since font sizing is my biggest peeve) but they
are mostly a matter of either:

A) Browser support or rather the inconsistent or non-existent support of
certain elements. To keep on target the aforementioned font sizing issues
and bugs with 100% as the base size.

B) The fact that CSS is still in its relative infancy. I'm not sure if I
like everything in the proposals for CSS 3 anymore and I know there are
things in XHTML 2 that I don't like. Probably several things in WCAG 2 that
I won't be fond of either. But whether or not I agree with the standards as
they evolve is not really the point. The point is that there needs to be a
clear definition of consistent terms.

C) XHTML has or is in the process of replacing HTML. Just like C# (which is
a standard certified by the EMCA (? its later here I'm not totally sure if
that's the right standards body or not and I'm not going to look it up right
now) that is replacing the proprietary C++ language. 

Code, standards, languages, all evolve. Personally I see nothing wrong with
a tree analogy for web pages. That's structure and I haven't seen anything
that looks like a reasonable replacement. If someone has an idea for another
method I'll be happy to look at it or listen to it. In the meantime I want
structure so that if a page is viewed without a stylesheet or whatever it
still makes sense. That is the purpose of mark-up. CSS is what makes it
pretty and visually appealing but when it comes down to it columns, and
other pretty display is not what is important. It comes down to content.
Without content everything else, is useless.

Cheryl D. Wise
Certified Professional Web Developer
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://starttoweb.com - Next Class Session Starts June 26, 2005
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tina Holmboe quoted

    "CSS still is unusable for most of the web and requires
     such an act of contortion to get anywhere near a
     desireable result."

  which is easily disproven. Unless you by "desirable result" mean
  "looking exactly as in the Photoshop drawing, everywhere", then all
  you need to do is look at a real life example of a website which
  actually *use* CSS, and only CSS, for layout.
Received on Tuesday, 7 June 2005 04:04:31 UTC

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