- From: Tina Holmboe <tina@greytower.net>
- Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 01:31:48 +0200 (CEST)
- To: orion.adrian@gmail.com
- Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
On 6 Jun, Orion Adrian wrote: > I would ask that you don't nitpick. Programming is a reasonable word > here since I'm providing instructions that are compiled or > interpretted for a platform. The usage of elements here is the common > English usage. You might be thinking of "nit-pick", which has nothing to do with what I did: "Nit-picking: n. informal. Petty criticism." We - aka the accessibility community - have a problem which, most of the time, go uncommented 'pon. When I started working in the field, some twelve years ago, those who claimed expertise existed mostly in the comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Usenet group. Sprout semi-coherent knowledge there, and you'd get your head chopped off - peer review at its finest, and its ugliest. Today, a claim to expertise is met by "Ooh!" and "Aah!" - and if there is a published book involved then status as a deity is quick to follow. So, people are talking about certification. Separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. You, Sir, claims certification as a CSS2 "Master", and yet you are propagating the use of incorrect nomenclature for your very field. - CSS is not programming by any conceivable stretch of the imagination. The instructions are not "compiled" nor "interpreted" in the sense these terms are used in *programming*. - The word "element", as used in common English, has absolutely nothing what so ever to do with the way it is used in CSS and HTML. CSS is quite explicit in its use: "The primary syntactic constructs of the document language." - you may wish to change the names of elements in (X)HTML, but when you talk about "elements in CSS" and how they are "poorly named", you are doing everyone a disservice. Calling a spade a hammer doesn't do anyone any good. Agreeing upon which words describe which abstract ideas is the very foundation for human communication - and, in a way, the very first step in accessibility. To quote the Perl manual: "But then you know when you use RedefineTheWorld() that you're redefining the world and willing to take the consequences." You redefined parts of very important language; Mr. Adrian. The consequences just came home to roost. This is not petty criticism. THIS is pointing out that you are calling "a spade" "an elephant", and would you *please* stop confusing people by doing so? > In terms of text wrapping I'm talking about what Microsoft Word allows > you to do and what float allows you to do in limited cases. I'd like > the ability to wrap text on both sides of an object placed anywhere. I am looking forward to hearing what the CSS WG said when you made this suggestion to them. -- - Tina Holmboe Greytower Technologies tina@greytower.net http://www.greytower.net/ [+46] 0708 557 905
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