- From: Tina Holmboe <tina@greytower.net>
- Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 01:31:48 +0200 (CEST)
- To: orion.adrian@gmail.com
- Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
On 6 Jun, Orion Adrian wrote:
> I would ask that you don't nitpick. Programming is a reasonable word
> here since I'm providing instructions that are compiled or
> interpretted for a platform. The usage of elements here is the common
> English usage.
You might be thinking of "nit-pick", which has nothing to do with what
I did:
"Nit-picking: n. informal. Petty criticism."
We - aka the accessibility community - have a problem which, most of
the time, go uncommented 'pon.
When I started working in the field, some twelve years ago, those who
claimed expertise existed mostly in the
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Usenet group. Sprout
semi-coherent knowledge there, and you'd get your head chopped off -
peer review at its finest, and its ugliest.
Today, a claim to expertise is met by "Ooh!" and "Aah!" - and if there
is a published book involved then status as a deity is quick to
follow. So, people are talking about certification. Separate the wheat
from the chaff, so to speak.
You, Sir, claims certification as a CSS2 "Master", and yet you are
propagating the use of incorrect nomenclature for your very field.
- CSS is not programming by any conceivable stretch of the
imagination. The instructions are not "compiled" nor "interpreted"
in the sense these terms are used in *programming*.
- The word "element", as used in common English, has absolutely
nothing what so ever to do with the way it is used in CSS and
HTML. CSS is quite explicit in its use: "The primary syntactic
constructs of the document language." - you may wish to change the
names of elements in (X)HTML, but when you talk about "elements in
CSS" and how they are "poorly named", you are doing everyone a
disservice. Calling a spade a hammer doesn't do anyone any good.
Agreeing upon which words describe which abstract ideas is the very
foundation for human communication - and, in a way, the very first
step in accessibility.
To quote the Perl manual: "But then you know when you use
RedefineTheWorld() that you're redefining the world and willing to take
the consequences."
You redefined parts of very important language; Mr. Adrian. The
consequences just came home to roost.
This is not petty criticism. THIS is pointing out that you are calling
"a spade" "an elephant", and would you *please* stop confusing people
by doing so?
> In terms of text wrapping I'm talking about what Microsoft Word allows
> you to do and what float allows you to do in limited cases. I'd like
> the ability to wrap text on both sides of an object placed anywhere.
I am looking forward to hearing what the CSS WG said when you made
this suggestion to them.
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