- From: John M Slatin <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>
- Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 15:52:53 -0500
- To: "Sailesh Panchang" <sailesh.panchang@deque.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <C46A1118E0262B47BD5C202DA2490D1A0331813F@MAIL02.austin.utexas.edu>
[JMS] Sailesh asked, in wonderment: <blockquote> John wrote: When taken by itself, 5.1 may not *absolutely* require use of <th> to identify headers in simple data tables (tables with only one row of column headers and one column of row headers). Sailesh: John, I am curious to understand why you feel this way and why you are roping 5.1 with Guideline 3. I think 5.1 is quite clear and distinct. Checkpoint 3.3 (P2) says use stylesheets for layout and that suggests use of CSS instead of layout tables. None of the other checkpoints in G3 refer to tables. And do you agree to the accessibility problem I pointed out while trying to navigate simple data tables without column headers? </blockquote> John says: Sailesh, I absolutely agree with you about the difficulty of navigating a table in JAWS (or other screen reader/talking browser) when column and row headers aren't properly identified. But checkpoint 5.1 says only that column and row headers must be identified; it doesn't say *how* they're to be identified. (The reference to <th> elements is part of a "for example," and I'm not certain if it's actually part of the checkpoint or not. If it *is* part of the checkpoint, then <th> is required, full stop. The reason I brought Guideline 3 into the discussion is that the guideline itself (not any specific checkpoint) calls for use of correct markup; and since <th> was introduced into the HTML specification precisely and only to identify table headers, I infer that the the requirement to identify column and row headers should be coupled with the call for correct markup. The more general point is that the guidelines interact with each other; they're not isolated requirements. So... where does that leave me? It leaves me saying that WCAG 1.0 requires use of <th> to identify column and row headers. (Jim Thatcher might point out here that the <td> element can have an id attribute, and can be referenced by a headers list in another <td> element, meaning that a programmatic association can be created between two <td> elements. If <td> also supports the scope attribute (I can't remember), then it *could* be argued that <td> elements placed in the first row and the first column of a table and each provided with an id attribute and a scope attribute (if supported), would satisfy the requirement to identify column and row headers. JAWS would treat them the same as it does <th> elements, I think. Sigh. John
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