- From: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>
- Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:48:47 +0100
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Kerstin Goldsmith wrote: > people using tables for layout is not going to go away any time soon ... Sadly, you're right. > also, I am not in favour of banning approaches in favor of "if this > method, then this desired result," or "if this technology, then this > desired result, with these possible approaches for attaining said > result, with the understanding that these approaches are not the only > possible solutions ....." I wasn't suggesting any banning, but: if we imply that using tables for layout is still ok, then of course people using tables for layout is not going to go away any time soon. I'd be all in favour to have a technique explaining "if you use tables purely for layout, then you should use a null summary", as long as it's also pointed out that authors should not be using tables for layout in the first place: as per guideline 11 (WCAG 1.0) and guideline 4.1 (WCAG 2.0), one should abide to the specifications; if we now look at the HTML 4.01 spec for tables http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/tables.html we note that "Tables should not be used purely as a means to layout document content [...] authors should use style sheets to control layout rather than tables." I'm not trying to be an elitist css fanatic, and I do know that where the rubber meets the road there's often a need to still rely on tables for layout...and in those cases, it would be good to have a best practice suggesting something like summary="". However, I feel it should come with the caveat that the approach is actually going against the original intent of what constitutes a table *and* - by that rationale - one of the guidelines of WCAG itself. Patrick _____________________________________________________ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com
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