- From: Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:40:29 -0500
- To: Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu>
- Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
- Message-ID: <OFE1C65B05.29501597-ON86256EFB.004EF537-86256EFB.00509D62@us.ibm.com>
> ... by providing a mechanism in the browser to move > to navigation links. > > Right now the best way to do this in HTML 4 is with > the MAP element and title attribute. The MAP element > says this is a collection of links and the title > attribute provides information about the purpose of > the collection on the web page. OK, yes today the MAP element can be used to group the bread crumb links. and yes a title attribute should also be used to provide additional contextual information about the group. However, I think we still need a new list type and until there is, the "greater than" character is the best convention to identify the list of links as a bread crumb list of links. the code would look something like the following: <map title="Hierarchal bread crumb trail"> <a href="home.html">Home</a> > <a href="products.html">Products</a> > <a href="at.html">Assistive Technologies</a> > Home Page Reader </map> Phill > Jon, do you disagree with my earlier post? I think > just adding the title attribute label is not enough. > > If someone codes [bread crumb links] as a list and > uses CSS to add "greater than looking" image > characters before each link - then I believe that is > NOT accessible because if I turn off CSS I loose the > hint from the "greater than looking images" that > separate the links. Those images/characters are the > hint that lets both the sighted and screen reader > users know they have encountered a bread crumb list > of links. CSS should not be used to add semantical > information through styling. Some may argue that > styling a list to make it look like a bread crumb > list is OK because it's a list after all isn't it? > My response has already been that it is not "just" > a list of links. Bread crumbs are a special list of > links that convey additional hierarchal meaning that > is not available from the current set of <ul>, <ol>, > <dl> XHTML 1.1 list tags - hence the invention of > the current use of the "greater than" characters and > the horizontal formatting on a single line. > Regards, > Phill
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