- From: david poehlman <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>
- Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 18:27:50 -0400
- To: "Joe Clark" <joeclark@joeclark.org>, "WAI-IG" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
I think we're getting off the track. The question is not whether there is text in pdf or not or whether I can google it, the question is whether I can use it as it is and the answer is mostly no. Johnnie Apple Seed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Clark" <joeclark@joeclark.org> To: "WAI-IG" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 5:30 PM Subject: Re: PDF in WCAG 2 >> If this question were actually serious, I could give you a list a mile >> long of practices used in typography that cannot be replicated in HTML. > > please do. as long as we're talking about practices that involve content, > and not presentational stylings. You seem to think footnotes are presentational. >> And did you know that you can actually embed multimedia, with captions >> and/or descriptions, *in* a PDF now? Try *that* in HTML. > > how's about object, for instance? object, embed, and img merely refer to multimedia. You can embed it in PDF. >> If you really believe the contrary, can we please just write out your >> wedding invitations on Bristol board in pink crayon? ...and the response changed the subject, so it can be ignored. >> Except for all that text inside them. > > which is useless to me if i can't access it in the first place... Every platform in common use (including Linxux) can read PDFs, including via open-source tools. Plus, I dunno, have you considered Googling? >> Why, exactly? > > because if it's not text - and i still maintain that, regardless of how > much text is inside the pdf, if i can't access it, it may as well not be > there - then an alternative needs to be available. The file contains its own accessibility features. I suppose you want captions and descriptions decoupled from multimedia, too. It seems some other people on the Working Group want that. -- Joe Clark | joeclark@joeclark.org Accessibility <http://joeclark.org/access/> Expect criticism if you top-post
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