- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@sidar.org>
- Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 02:06:59 +1100
- To: Christian Wolfgang Hujer <Christian.Hujer@itcqis.com>
- Cc: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>, www-html@w3.org, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Hi, Sidar's WCAG2-espa group has discussed this a bit, and the emerging consensus basically agrees with what Christian says below (which saves me a lot of typing ;-). The point about expanding all instances, not just the first, is important to work with current technology - a paper presented by Sofia Celic looked into this. It's the kind of thing tools should do anyway - it's a pretty simple search/replace type script. cheers Chaals Le Friday, 12 Dec 2003, à 22:02 Australia/Melbourne, Christian Wolfgang Hujer a écrit : > My point: > - - since acronyms aren't neccessarily pronouncable, it's required to > differ > between acronyms and abbreviations for speech browsers; a separate, > e.g. > class based scheme is required anyway, since for <abbr title="for > example">e.g.</abbr> you'd might want to make an exception from the > rule to > speak the title and want to spell out the element content instead. So > you'd > need at least three classes to be implemented in an aural stylesheet: > * spell out element content > * read title > * read element content > > - - the semantic value of marking up an abbreviation that is an acronym > different from those abbreviation that aren't is very very little, for > me it > even has no value at all; I'd rather wish for a <person/> element than > for a > differentiation between those abbreviations that are acronyms and > those that > aren't. > > - - Also, for transformations with XSLT <acronym/> gives no extra > value. > Expanding <abbr>e.g.</abbr> and <acronym>Laser</acronym> using a > database > works all the same. > > So differing between those two kinds of abbreviations that are > acronyms and > that aren't isn't that important at all, I think. So I vote for > dropping > <acronym/> (XHTML 2.0 probably does so). > > I think the WAI HTML Techniques Draft should state that it's important > to > markup abbreviations at all, but it's not so important to markup those > special abbreviations that are acronyms as such. > > Also I suggest that abbreviations are always marked up, not just the > first > time, maybe the title can be given only the first time. > -- Charles McCathieNevile Fundación Sidar charles@sidar.org http://www.sidar.org
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