- From: Harry Woodrow <harrry@email.com>
- Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:19:12 +0800
- To: "'David Woolley'" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
This comes back to the conclusion that there is no actual standard. I know that 80 characters was the width of an IBM card, but they have gone the way of the looms they controlled. 79 was the number of characters that could be displayed on some old teminals as one had to be kept for the edges, but few people are using green terminals any more. The only standard I can find is: the internet email protocols clearly permit line lengths up to 1000 characters (rfc 821).. Forcing line breaks prevents the receiver from allowing software to effectively word wrap the text. For instance I use a screen which could display several hundred characters but I use a narrow window for email which allows effective reading even with an enlarged font size in much the same way as a newspaper column allows efficient reading. Keeping to old preferences is probably not a valid reason and if standards are quoted as the reason others should comply with someone's preference it seems reasonable to expect that the actual standard does exist and can be demonstrated. Harry Woodrow -----Original Message----, From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of David Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 3 December 2003 3:59 To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Re: To be or not to be...an alt tag, that is the question > > What standard refers to 79 characters. It dates back to the days when you didn't need to have legal documents for everything as users and software developers understood certain things without being told. The main standards issue is that a lot of GUI email programs don't make it clear that when they wrap a displayed line it is an error recovery behaviour, not a means to produce reflowable paragraphs (I suspect the authors of such programs don't know that either). In particular, = at the end of a MIME quoted-printable encoded line means append the next line without starting a newline; it is not a soft newline. For non quoted-printable material, whilst not a standard, the limit is implicit in the use of = to break up long lines at that sort of length, and is, I think, explained in the rationale for that standard. The actual reccommended length, taken from USENET guideline documents for new users (try news:news.announce.newusers), is more like 73 characters, which allows for a few generations of quoting with prefixed "> ". but GUI email programs tend to result in non-interleaved responses, anyway. (When people write their paragraphs all on one line, you sill sometimes find that I re-wrap them and use a different prefix character after the arbitrary breaks in the line that I have introduced.) --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.545 / Virus Database: 339 - Release Date: 27/11/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.545 / Virus Database: 339 - Release Date: 27/11/2003
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