- From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>
- Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 09:22:38 -0400
- To: "Jim Tobias" <tobias@inclusive.com>, "'John Britsios'" <webmaster@webnauts.net>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
If you are going to have a jaws wiget, you need to keep it up to date, provide documentation for developpers to read and make it as fully configurable for the web as jaws is and provide a way to see where the cursor lands when you use the navigation aids it provides. I am in favor of this, but it would be a lot of work for someone or a company and it would probably turn out not to be free. In fairness, you'd also need some of the other tools emmulated as well such as zoom text, magic, window eyes, hal and others. I guess the point I am trying to make is that we seem to be putting the cart before the horse here. The assumption is that if you validate and code to wai guidelines, that the assistives should fall in line. This includes using the techniques. I'd be more in favor of providing a techniques document or adding to the techniques document tips for maximizing the environment you know your client will want to maximize. I have begun to see for instance on some sites a notice saying something like: " if you are using jaws to fill out this form, turn off the virtual cursor. If you are using window eyes, turn off msaa mode." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Tobias" <tobias@inclusive.com> To: "'John Britsios'" <webmaster@webnauts.net>; <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 7:45 AM Subject: RE: JAWSR for Windows for FREE? Lets give a try! Hi All, There has been a rather lively discussion on this petition, both at Accessify: http://www.accessifyforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=149 and Maccessibility: http://www.maccessibility.com/ I proposed a non-speech version of JAWS: put in a page, get a "transcript" of what JAWS would have spoken. It could support all settings, or only the most common settings that real users use. This should have the advantage of reducing the learning requirements and not eroding JAWS revenue. Does Lynx already perform this function? If so, shouldn't there be an outreach effort to non-blind developers about how to use Lynx as an evaluation tool? ***** Jim Tobias Inclusive Technologies tobias@inclusive.com 732.441.0831 v/tty www.inclusive.com -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of John Britsios Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 6:14 PM To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: JAWSR for Windows for FREE? Lets give a try! Dear all! Not every freelancer designer, developer, can afford buying JAWS, to test the web sites they build. Therefore, see how this problem may be solved! More info here: <http://www.dreamlettes.net/petition/> http://www.dreamlettes.net/petition/ Thanks for your your time and help! Kind regards, John P.S. If you have a minute, please visit the "Webnauts Net Accessibility and Usability Initiative" forum at: http://www.webnauts.net/phpBB2/index.php --- John S. Britsios, Web Accessibility and Usability Consultant Webnauts Net Web Accessibility & Usability Consultants Wilbrandstr. 77 D-33604 Bielefeld Germany UMS: +49-(0)700-WEBNAUTS HOME: http://www.webnauts.net (redesign is in progress) ACADEMY: http://www.webnauts-akademie.de (German) SHOP: http://shop.webnauts.net (German) VALIDATOR: http://www.webnauts.net/cse_validator.html "For people without disabilities, technology makes things convenient. For people with disabilities, it makes things possible."
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