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Re: Joe Clark book review from pcpro

From: Tim Roberts <tim@wiseguysonly.com>
Date: 03 Mar 2003 23:59:31 +0100
To: WAI-IG <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-Id: <1046732370.3228.6.camel@debian.happygecko.com>

let me get something straight.

Is this list about:


Mocking people who promote accessibility?

Anti Joe Clarke?

What a dumb thread this has really been.


On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 20:02, Joe Clark wrote:
> BTW, it would have been nice to have received an actual E-mail about
> this thread. You know, I'm *on* this list, not merely present by
> name in subject lines.
> > I agree on the odd typography - the twirls on the image captions are a
> > little distracting (on words like system and selection).
> I assume you refer to the ct and st ligatures. You don't have to
> like them, of course.
> > The images could be
> > a bit more clear - especially those containing close to unreadable text in
> > pop-ups.
> We did what we could with the somewhat ridiculous constraint that
> *we couldn't print in colour*. TIFF screenshots are intrinsically
> low-resolution (72 dpi, nominally) and actually look *better*
> reduced in size. Believe me, we spent actual days doing nothing but
> manipulating and optimizing screenshots. Days and days and days. We
> removed individual pixels in more than one case.
> In examples where reading the onscreen text was absolutely
> necessary, we used callouts and bigger magnification sizes,
> actually.
> I agree to some extent with the criticism, but what you see in the
> book is the best we could do under our constraints, one more of
> which was we were unable to include the graphics on the CD-ROM,
> which might have obviated certain problems.
> > I don't find the US-centrism that much of a problem (as opposed to
> Probably because there isn't any. U.S. coverage was included where
> necessary, but a great deal of foreign information was included.
> Anybody bother to check all the screenshots in Italian, Portuguese,
> Finnish, and so on? In fact, the *lack* of emphasis on the U.S. was
> remarked upon by my publisher, but I stayed the course.
> > draw the right parallels. For a UK perspective, I find Australian practice
> > setting a good precedent.
> Check the CD-ROM for Martin Sloan's article on the subject. It was
> too lengthy to include in the main text. But you see, I didn't
> overlook the U.K.
> > *aside* The quote "Standards compliance is a form of programming maturity"
> > is a good one, but I hesitate to use it because of the word "programming"
> > and its implication of website creation as programming -- but that's just my
> > paranoia.
> Possibly a fair point, though admittedly rather minor, but I've
> found that critics of my book have quasi-Aspergerian capacities to
> expand inconsequential issues into blanket condemnations. It's a
> feature I recognize in myself, of course.
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