- From: Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
- Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 06:40:36 +0000
- To: Joe Clark <joeclark@joeclark.org>
- Cc: WAI-IG <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
How long did it take that to cross the pond? a UK friend of mine had a california licence plate so-named 'I W**K' maybe 20 years ago Jonathan On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, at 08:08 PM, Joe Clark wrote: > >> Or the CSS equivalent of providing :focus and :hover rules. >> >> a:focus, a:hover { background-color: yellow } > > Oh, but it gets better! > > Eric Meyer and I had written, in research for my book: > >>>> So what it comes down to is a question of which states should >>>> take precedence over others. Is focus more "necessary" than hover, >>>> or active? That's really what I was asking you, as an >>>> accessibility guru, to answer. >>> >>> I would say yes. You need to be able to tell where the focus is. >>> That may necessitate making the focus state big-arse ugly so it can >>> be spotted easily. >> >> Right, but what if the focus style (for the sake of argument) is >> just a color change. I know it should be more, but let's say it's >> just that. Is it okay to put that style in the middle of the stack, >> and have the hover and active styles override it during those events? >> For example: >> >> a:focus {color: lime;} >> a:hover {color: red;} >> a:active {color: yellow;} >> >> So a focused link would be lime (ick). When the user hovers it, >> assuming they're using a mouse or other pointing device, it will >> switch to red, but then when they move away it will go back to lime. >> Similarly, the link will be yellow for the duration of the "click" >> (or other activating action) and then should go back to lime. >> >> A slightly more realistic example: >> >> a:focus {border: 2px dotted red;} >> a:hover {border: 2px solid #F99;} >> a:active {color: 2px solid red;} >> >> The same basic hierarchy of effects applies. Is it acceptable to >> have the hover and active styles temporarily override the focus >> style, or are there accessibility reasons to always have the focus >> style visible no matter what else is happening? I guess that's my >> real question. > > I have not quite figured this out myself. Further, you can add > :visited to the mix. I actually have the following in some of my > stylesheets: > > a:link > a:visited > a:hover > a:focus > a:visited:focus > > and I am not sure that is the actually correct order. I should ask > Eric. You can also do a:visited:hover, which I have used a couple of > times. > > Eric adds that the basic rationale is: > >> Specificity. And which effect you want to overrule which others. See >> <http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/link-specificity.html> for the long >> explanation. Let me know if it doesn't make sense. > > And yes, it's pretty much a wank to use JavaScript for these functions. > -- > > Joe Clark | joeclark@joeclark.org > Accessibility <http://joeclark.org/access/> > Weblogs and articles <http://joeclark.org/weblogs/> > <http://joeclark.org/writing/> | <http://fawny.org/> >
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