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Re: window.print ()

From: Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 10:15:48 +0100
Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
To: "Jesper Tverskov" <jesper.tverskov@mail.tele.dk>
Message-Id: <7908FD39-8E91-11D7-9BC1-0003939B5AD0@btinternet.com>


like David, you assume the user has access to the OS, frequently they 
don't; our local supermarket provides their help desk with IE and no 
othr application, it is not connected to the web, and yes it does have 
a default configuration that can't be interfered with. Our students and 
staff don't have the knowledge, understanding, desire, means or time to 
learn the OS first.

for instance at http://www.peepo.com we have disabled right clicking, 
because many users cannot differentiate left and right clicking.
on some pages we disable left clicking, so that users can learn to 
control the mouse without clicking.
Then we provide a button that enables right clicking* for those that 
want to copy and paste images, or gain access to the dialogue for 
another purpose.

It is possible to do this via the OS, but given that we know our users 
don't know how, and we don't know their OS, this is a rational approach.

So perhaps you'll both concede that there is a useful purpose served 
for the elderly, children and those with a learning disability.
Don't forget that when we are old something else will need to be learnt 
by us, and its very dull if there is only one way to skin the cat.


*using cookies, currently this is slightly hidden in '?' 'help'

On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 09:23 AM, Jesper Tverskov wrote:

> Every thing that can be handled by the user agent like printing, 
> making favorites, moving to the top and bottom of a page should be 
> handled by the user agent making it much easier for users to use any 
> website, making our web pages less cluttered, saving web programmers 
> hours of coding, etc.
> We don't have a "print"-icon in emails for printing, or in spread 
> sheets, documents etc. And we should not have "print"-icons in web 
> pages. Let the user agent do the job making use of a stylesheet for 
> the printer. There could be som rare exceptions.
> Best regards,
> Jesper Tverskov
> www.SmackTheMouse.com
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> On Sunday, 25-05-2003 00:38, David Woolley wrote:
> Accessibility, means that if the current standard doesn't allow an
> accessible in window print button; Then we need to change the standard.
> A brief survey of flash sites will show you that by far the majority
> that provide a suitable activity also have their own print button.
> Part of this is usability, part style. If the user is engaged in a
> centre screen activity, it is quicker and easier to move the mouse less
> far, but also the design, color and context can be far more
> appropriate than that in the toolbar.
Received on Sunday, 25 May 2003 05:12:27 UTC

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