- From: Geoff Deering <gdeering@acslink.net.au>
- Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 23:16:09 +1100
- To: "Jim Ley" <jim@jibbering.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Jim Ley > As SVG in now becoming installed in more and more devices, and is native in > Mozilla, SVG is certainly not native in Mozilla, it's available in special mozilla builds and is far from release quality. Well, I was just reading what is on the Mozilla site http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/ Native SVG vs. plug-in SVG The Mozilla SVG implementation is a native SVG implementation. This is as opposed to plug-in SVG viewers such as the Adobe viewer (which is currently the most popular SVG viewer). * could we see the default document type on the web becoming .svg, > given it's power and presentation? I can see a lot of people wanting to > design like this. I don't have a problem with it because it is XML based. That would be an absolute disaster for accessibility, SVG has very few accessibility features and those that are available (like css) cannot be used without rendering the content inaccessible. SVG due to some compromises in the design (such as "z-index" support) does not allow for sensible grouping and description in the general case, and also it often relies on position to give information yet provides no mechanism to describe that position in a meaningful manner. There's also problems with lack of any non pointer based interaction. There are many good features though, and with metadata you can make the content accessible - however, that's really just providing a metadata version of the document and that works with all different document types. Interesting. > There is a side issue of dynamic SVG replacing dynamic HTML, especially for > pull down menus. Does this have the same accessibility issues, or does it > overcome some or many of them. It adds lots of new ones, whilst solving none from well authored dynamic HTML, that is not the place for SVG, SVG is about graphics semantics not doing drop down menus etc. Yes but SVG does interact with the DOM via ECMAScript. You can do a lot of stuff with that just like Dynamic HTML http://www.xfront.org/svgdemo/ http://xml.coverpages.org/ni2001-11-08-a.html Geoff
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