- From: Scarlett Julian (ED) <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>
- Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:10:53 -0000
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> From a personal, aestethic, point of view I find them unelegant. It > should really be unnecessary to, as one of them suggests, include a > text-string as part of a value for the voice-family > property which IE > reacts to and stops parsing. It smacks of GOTO. I agree, most of them are inelegant and yes, it really should be unnecessary to use them but we find ourselves in a switch-over period (it may turn out to be a long switch-over period and this may be exacerbated with future css standard). We are encouraged to use css for positioning and yet browser vendors seem incapable/unwilling of writing to w3c specs. It wouldn't be so bad if the non-compliant browsers had an insignificant market share but one of the worst happens to be the dominant browser. Your practical argument seems to revolve around maintenance issues and I agree that it's a headache. But, and this is the salient point, it is *my* headache and what I do doesn't really affect accessibility as long as I keep things up to date. If I want to write a huge site based entirely on static html and update each page individually then I can and it isn't an accessibility issue. Of course I would be insane to do so and it would be much better to use includes and server-side scripting but the point is that it isn't an accessibility issue. If you have any practical examples of where css hacks have inhibited accessibility then I really would like to see them because I use them a lot and would hate to think that something I was doing was inadvertently affecting the accessibility of my pages. Why do I like them so much? Because they don't rely on server side scripting (which isn't available to all) and they don't use client side scripting (and what happens if the user has a javascript disabled browser). Besides which any form of browser sniffing (even reading HTTP User Agent variables) is prone to failure. > of the future. That is also why I dislike browsers who, despite > having different capabilities, claim to be something else. Ah, we agree. I like common ground ;-) J. The information in this email is confidential. The contents may not be disclosed or used by anyone other than the addressee. If you are not the addressee, please tell us by using the reply facility in your email software as soon as possible. Sheffield City Council cannot accept any responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of this message as it has been transmitted over a public network. If you suspect that the message may have been intercepted or amended please tell us as soon as possible.
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