- From: Jukka Korpela <jukka.korpela@tieke.fi>
- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:48:51 +0200
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
C. Bottelier wrote: > I find the 'Accessibility Options' a great idea, although I (and > most probably more people) have loaded their browser with a user > stylesheet that overrides all colour and fonts. Things like "Accessibility Options" reflect real concern and often involve sophisticated techniques and a lot of work, but they are a completely wrong approach, except in rare special cases. They try to solve users' problems with browsing on a per-site (or even per-page) basis. If my problem is, say, that the default font size of my browser is too big or too small, then I need to fix that, or have someone fix it for me. It helps remarkably little if different sites have different techniques for fixing such things for each site. It takes time and effort to understand how they work and to use them, typically even more than learning how to change browser settings and change them. Moreover, they add technicalities to a page, and any technicality is potentially confusing. Here's what I get e.g. on Lynx when trying to visit the "Events" page: Accessibility Options The Sample Charity's logo The Sample Charity 21 Sample Street, Sample Town, Sample County. AA1 BB2 Tel: 01234 55 66 77 Fax: 01234 77 88 99 Email: sample@charityskills.net Warning: This page is designed for optimal display in browsers with fully support for XHTML and CSS positioning. Your older browsers still has full access to the content in a linear format below, but it is not being displayed as it was intended Skip to navigation I'm afraid several speech browsers would read that whenever a user visits any of the pages, before getting at the page content. It gets a bit boring. If you want to put the full address on every page, it's best to make it _last_, even if you decide to use CSS positioning to make it appear visually e.g. in the upper right corner. Short texts like "accessibility options" at the start of each and every page are less distracting, but distracting anyway. Besides, on Opera the site http://www.sample.charityskills.net/ does not work at all except in "user mode". In "document mode", I get huge text size, and "Accessibility Options" (which covers about half of the screen) appears as underlined but does nothing when clicked on. So there might be some technical problems too. > >3. We are considering providing a facility so that the user can > >download their own custom style sheet based on the > preferences they set > >and then provide them with instructions on how to use it in the > >browsers that support it - do you think this is worthwhile? > > This would be more the thing of a site on helping people who don't > know CSS to 'compose' a user stylesheet. Exactly. Actual accessibility is a product of several factors, including pages themselves, servers, browsers and their configuration, plugins and assistive technologies, users, and people who help the users. To some extent, these can compensate for each other, but not very much. If the user does not know how to use the browser, he needs _general_ help for that, not any site-specific help. If he needs a user style sheet, it should be written for _general_ use in his browsing. -- Jukka Korpela, senior adviser TIEKE Finnish Information Society Development Centre http://www.tieke.fi/ My phone +358 9 4763 0397
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