- From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
- Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:44:25 +0100 (BST)
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> > > Is it possible to paste an image into a form? The file upload mechanism supports it at the protocol level. I doubt that any browser implements it at the user interface level. > The simplest nearly succesful method I have found is in ie6 right click > on image, select properties, highlight URI, copy, paste into form. That doesn't submit the image, only a link to it. I presume that multipart/form-data would also permit that, although I doubt that any server actually supports the MIME features used. There isn't a form control that accepts a reference. (It might be worth checking xforms - any extension to forms is likely to have to come through that route, if not done as a proprietory, commercial, extension.) People abusing HTML## to emulate drag and drop in a native Windows interface would probably only support images that are part of the page and would track them using scripting. Incidentally, whilst being able to access the URL of the image makes sense if you take a web philosophy view that an img element is really a funny sort of link, I suspect the commercial pressures on browser developers are towards removing such features, as they allow the "user experience" to be deconstructed, and even the image to be ripped off for use in another web page++. > our current feedback beta http://www.peepo.com/alfy/feedback.html lets > users paint an image, and send it in with a click. That is covered by the file upload protocol. > copy and paste would suit many users. There is almost certainly very little commercial demand for this, as forms are normally used to allow one to de-skill, or completely remove the human element at the server side, whereas interpreting pictures still requires human skills (people who upload photographs to photo libraries, or images for processing and return, normally have them as files, so can use file upload explicitly). At a guess, it would make more sense for a service provider to provide access with NetMeeting, etc., for users that needed to sketch things, as, I would guess, such users need to be talked through a procedure, not fill in a form offline. Note that there is no discrimination against here, even if there is a lack of discrimination in favour. ## HTML was used loosely here, as scripting languages and browser object models are not part of HTML proper. ++ One of the concerns I have about what you seem to be trying to do in other areas is that you are trying to access URLs that the web page designer would rather remain opaque - people with multimedia contents usually have it as a teaser for the web page that "embeds" it, rather than because they want to provide that content. Long term, you might be better off trying to work with the owners of the digital rights to try and find a way of providing the resources to your community in a way that doesn't make them accessible to those who would be able to respond to the advertising content of pages; I'm thinking of the same sort of principle that means that talking books for the blind can't be played on normal tape recorders. (A counter example is the level of abuse of disabled only parking spaces.) If you are deep linking at the moment, you are probably getting away with it because the rights owners don't think that the general public will use your site to bypass theirs.
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