- From: Joe Clark <joeclark@joeclark.org>
- Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 18:05:22 -0400
- To: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>, WAI-IG <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>>..which is virtually impossible for a layperson to estimate. >>Quickie question to the WAI: What exactly do other people see? > >Not speaking for WAI, just myself, the answer is I don't know. The answer for all human beings throughout history and into the foreseeable future is "I don't know." It is physiologically unknowable. Even-- actually, *especially*-- leading scientists in colour vision are extremely reluctant to speculate about what colour-deficient people see because such researchers can, at best, rely on inferences from empirical testing and from interviewing such people. (The most valuable subjects are the eight people documented in the literature as having one colour-normal and one colour-deficient eye. Those people can compare and contrast just by winking.) The WAI must exercise much more caution on this question. WCAG readers should not be encouraged to jump to the conclusion that certain colour combinations are guaranteed to be safe, a claim it is empirically impossible to prove. > I believe (reaching into my memory, which tells me someone posted a >proper reference to this list once which I think is the basis for >what I am saying) that having something like a 50% or greater >difference in values of saturation and brightness, combined with a >90-degree difference in hue, provides enough contrast that most >sighted people can usefully distinguish things. So let's see. We now expect Web designers-- ignored, derided, and misunderstood for more than half a decade by the WAI-- to begin engaging in calculations of colour values, using two different units, on every page of every site they design from now on. Can you tell me where in Photoshop or Fireworks I can set those things up? Just real quick? > Of course there are some people who use black and white only, I'd like to know where they're getting their monitors. Ever tried buying a greyscale monitor these days? (Not from an antique store, I mean.) Unless of course you mean Lynx or equivalent, which can and do run in full colour. (I could give you a screenshot of my own usage.) > and large size (at least there are some friends of mine who do >this. I suspect they are not the only ones.) "Large size" and "colour" have little correlation. In practice, even confusable colours (a spectrum that extends beyond red and green) can be used together if other factors make confusion impossible or, since we cannot definitively establish what other people see, manifestly unlikely. Read Chapter 9 of my book for everything you ever wanted to know, backed up by actual research citations and extensive interviews with scientists studying colour vision. That level of research should have been the minimum used by the WAI in establishing its guidelines for accommodating colourblindness. -- Joe Clark | joeclark@joeclark.org Accessibility <http://joeclark.org/access/> Author, _Building Accessible Websites_ <http://joeclark.org/book/>
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